RFA Victor Cruz - New England Patriots Forums

***1%er*** · 01-03-2013, 07:46 AM

Thoughts on offering Cruz a long term deal, we would lose are #1 to the Giants in exchange.

Cruz could offer a replacement for Welker and more of a deep threat. He is also just 26.

He went to UMASS

***KontradictioN*** · 01-03-2013, 07:50 AM

This forum had issues with Welker's drops throughout the season. Imagine their reaction when Cruz alligator arms one over the middle.

The kid has talent, but he's probably going to cost just as much (if not more) than Welker. Further, Welker has already mastered and excelled in the system and has shown no signs of slowing down (in spite of the prognostications of some in the preseason). Sign #83 and let the Giants deal with Cruz.

The Brandon Five · 01-03-2013, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 1%er

Thoughts on offering Cruz a long term deal, we would lose are #1 to the Giants in exchange.

Cruz could offer a replacement for Welker and more of a deep threat. He is also just 26.

He went to UMASS

How the heck did the Pats miss this kid right in their back yard? Undrafted.

***ctpatsfan77*** · 01-03-2013, 08:03 AM

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How the heck did the Pats miss this kid right in their back yard? Undrafted.

They passed on Welker in part because they had Troy Brown.

They passed on Cruz in part because they had Welker (and Edelman).

***mayoclinic*** · 01-03-2013, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KontradictioN

This forum had issues with Welker's drops throughout the season. Imagine their reaction when Cruz alligator arms one over the middle.

The kid has talent, but he's probably going to cost just as much (if not more) than Welker. Further, Welker has already mastered and excelled in the system and has shown no signs of slowing down (in spite of the prognostications of some in the preseason). Sign #83 and let the Giants deal with Cruz.

1. The Giants will almost certainly lock Cruz up long term and prevent him from reaching the market.

2. I'm not wild about giving up a 1st for a WR, as I wasn't with Mike Wallace last year. Cruz will cost a fortune to sign long term.

Cruz is a good player. Wish we had found him. But that window has passed. At this point, I'm willing to bet that Markus Wheaton will be as good as Victor Cruz, will cost less than trading a 1st, and will be available for 4 years at a fraction of the price. Target him in the 2nd round.

borg · 01-03-2013, 08:25 AM

1) Pats don't use #1s on WRs.......a position that touches the ball a handfull of times/game
2) A #1 pick PLUS a big money contract??? Why do we keep going down this road and go against all we know of how BB operates. Under this scenario, you are asking BB to use resources that could land two solid starters....for one player? Did BB all of a sudden set aside the foundations of team building he has adhered to for decades ignoring his economic undergrad background.
Seymour, Bledsoe, Branch.....BB is the seller, not the buyer.

***ausbacker*** · 01-03-2013, 08:25 AM

As a hypothetical if we're swinging a first round pick I'd rather shoot it off to Arizona for Larry Fitzgerald.

satz · 01-03-2013, 08:25 AM

After our history with Drafting and signing FA WR, i think we need to accept that we better stick with what works even if cost a little bit more money.

we have consistently proved that we cannot draft and develop 1 in 10 yrs or sign a good FA that would work 50% of the time.

At this point , developing/drafting/signing a WR to replace branch at the 3rd option is high priority. we had lloyd ,sign wes and try for the 3rd WR.

The Brandon Five · 01-03-2013, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KontradictioN

This forum had issues with Welker's drops throughout the season. Imagine their reaction when Cruz alligator arms one over the middle.

The kid has talent, but he's probably going to cost just as much (if not more) than Welker. Further, Welker has already mastered and excelled in the system and has shown no signs of slowing down (in spite of the prognostications of some in the preseason). Sign #83 and let the Giants deal with Cruz.

Cruz only had one more dropped pass than Welker this year, but yeah, not sure you can expect Victor to have the same Vulcan mind-meld as Tom and Wes.

NE_PATS_FAN_54 · 01-03-2013, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by borg

1) Pats don't use #1s on WRs.......a position that touches the ball a handfull of times/game
2) A #1 pick PLUS a big money contract??? Why do we keep going down this road and go against all we know of how BB operates. Under this scenario, you are asking BB to use resources that could land two solid starters....for one player? Did BB all of a sudden set aside the foundations of team building he has adhered to for decades ignoring his economic undergrad background.
Seymour, Bledsoe, Branch.....BB is the seller, not the buyer.

Exactly. Not happening.