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Old 01-02-2013, 04:50 PM   #31
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Are you close with his treating physician? 4 weeks according to whom? If you'll recall, the snap consensus when the freak injury occurred was insta-IR.

I always get a kick when people question Hernandez' toughness when he's been gutting it out there on one wheel. You'd be better off sticking to your other keen observations, like how Ninkovich is the worst starter in the league.

Yep. I thought Hernandez was going to IR when he got hurt, and he has shown exceptional toughness and heart by playing through the pain this season. He has been limited by it but has still helped them win and in no way can he be considered a disappointment.
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Old 01-02-2013, 05:14 PM   #32
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I didn't realize that everyone had such high expectations for Nate Solder filling in for the departed Matt Light.
I was not surprised to see him play well. He played well as a rookie.
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Old 01-02-2013, 05:17 PM   #33
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If you watched the Pats last year , Ridley and Spikes wouldn't be surprises. Both came on strong at the end of last year and their potential was obvious
Ridley was inactive for the AFC Championship game didn't take a single snap in the Super Bowl.. That's coming on strong?

Spikes played less the 40% of defensive snaps last year.
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Old 01-02-2013, 05:39 PM   #34
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For how many games? The over/under has to be set at about 4.

He's shown enough to make him a cheaper re-sign, because his large volume of inactivity with limit his marketability. That's a good thing, since he's a good player on those rare occasions when he can suit up for more than two games in a month. I'm all for keeping him around on the cheap in case he can change that, but in no way would I want to depend on it.
Is that with or without resigning Welker?
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Old 01-02-2013, 05:54 PM   #35
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He's not. He's just a terrible poster.

As a bubble player Scott has been solid, IMO. Definitely a good rotational guy in the mix.
The pot calling the kettle black.

If the Pats listened to Jack, Maroney, Chad Jackson, Bethel, Wlihite, Butler would all still be on the team.
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Old 01-02-2013, 05:56 PM   #36
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Too many good suprises to really narrow it down to a list of a few. I'll just say for the most part I was very happy with most of the guys this season and just do my disappointments. I'll keep it to the guys I had expectations for. Guys like Dowling, Moore, Brace, etc I pretty much knew what was coming. But my disappointments:

Tavon Wilson - Expected he'd be at least a part time contributor but to my knowledge he's really only gotten in when Gregory was injured or what Talib/Dennard were out and DMC had to play corner. Hope he is ready next year and we're not still looking for a safety.

Vereen - Kind of nitpicking here but I expected more from him. He's been okay when he's in but really only one big play all season in a game that was a blowout anyways. A huge fumble against SF. Not good when the highest draft pick appears to be 4th on the depth chart, especially when 2 of the 3 are UDFA. Not sure why he can't even get looks as a returner.

Bequette - Wanted to see him as a situational pass rusher. But I guess like Vereen it's nitpicking since Ninkovich, Scott, Cunningham, and Francis have all stepped it up and it's possibly just a numbers game.

Vinatieri - Just outside the bottom 10 in FG%, not good especially considering what he's making. Hopefully he continues to be reliable in the playoffs or else I'd hope there is more than just the standard TC competition next year.

Fells/Shiancoe - With the injuries to Ahern/Gronk I didn't think Hoomandsnfiaiea would be the one getting the expanded role.
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For how many games? The over/under has to be set at about 4.

He's shown enough to make him a cheaper re-sign, because his large volume of inactivity with limit his marketability. That's a good thing, since he's a good player on those rare occasions when he can suit up for more than two games in a month. I'm all for keeping him around on the cheap in case he can change that, but in no way would I want to depend on it.
Snarkasm aside, he played 11 games in 2009 (broken forearm), 15 in 2010, and 13 in 2011. Even this year he managed 9.
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No, Im not trying to rile up the primates.

I do not believe that NE will invest in a long term contract with a 32 year old WR. Particularly when NE needs to get younger at that position. Welker thinks he can be the same player without Brady and history has shown that he wont be. I think if Welker backs off on his demands that he will be around, but if he sticks to his guns, that the Pats wont hesitate to plug someone else in and let Brady make that guy a star.
Which history? 2004 and 2005, when the LOLphins were too clueless to use him as a WR properly?

2006, when he lead the LOLphins in receptions and yards?

Or 2008, when he was an All-Pro with Matt Cassel throwing him the ball?
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Other surprises

Solder has played very well. Hard to believe that Matt Light hasnt been gone a year yet.

Ridley deserves the #1 RB slot. Great vision and acceleration.

Slater is just on fire with special teams.
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Which history? 2004 and 2005, when the LOLphins were too clueless to use him as a WR properly?

2006, when he lead the LOLphins in receptions and yards?

Or 2008, when he was an All-Pro with Matt Cassel throwing him the ball?
Branchs history, Moss's history, Givens history, Pattens history.

Do you think that Welker will put up the same numbers that he is today on a different team ?

Because thats what his value is based on isnt?
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