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Re: A little early, but: should the Patriots try to re-sign Wes Welker?
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Originally Posted by ATippett56
Why would Talib sign a contract that only averages $6 million/year when a second tier cornerback such as Richard Marshall signed a 3 year, $16 million contract?
Tip, if you re-read my post you will see that I called it doubtful that he would sign for a lower end deal if bigger money is on the table.
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Re: A little early, but: should the Patriots try to re-sign Wes Welker?
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Originally Posted by Deus Irae
Talib's not important, in and of himself. A CB capable of keeping McCourty at the S position is important. At this point, I think you keep McCourty at safety and hope he avoids Eugene Wilson Syndrome.
While this is certainly true, the commodity you've described has been seen around these parts about as often as the abominable snowman in recent years. Luckily unless Talib is completely full of it he seems to have found himself here and hopefully that will factor in to some extent in the contract negotiations.
Re: A little early, but: should the Patriots try to re-sign Wes Welker?
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Originally Posted by JackBauer
While this is certainly true, the commodity you've described has been seen around these parts about as often as the abominable snowman in recent years. Luckily unless Talib is completely full of it he seems to have found himself here and hopefully that will factor in to some extent in the contract negotiations.
While I agree with your sentiments, my point was that if the 'troubled' Talib is asking for too much money, the team can look elsewhere for a viable replacement. As we've seen in recent years, looking is no guarantee of successfully finding.
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Re: A little early, but: should the Patriots try to re-sign Wes Welker?
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Originally Posted by Deus Irae
While I agree with your sentiments, my point was that if the 'troubled' Talib is asking for too much money, the team can look elsewhere for a viable replacement. As we've seen in recent years, looking is no guarantee of successfully finding.
Agreed.
I certainly hope he works out. It would be great to use the limited resources at our disposal (particularly in the draft) on other areas of need...DE/DT, S, WR, OG/OT.
Re: A little early, but: should the Patriots try to re-sign Wes Welker?
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Originally Posted by Dutchmaster617
No smart ass, I said let Welker walk, never mentioned Brady.
Read the exchange with Manxman, who was trolling. You'll see the point of the "trade Brady" comment.
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Re: A little early, but: should the Patriots try to re-sign Wes Welker?
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Originally Posted by AndyJohnson
It doesnt matter. Thats what he costs, thats what players his age get, and he is invaluable to this team. Let me guess, next it will be let Brady go to save on the cap?.
I really don't know why you keep bringing up this cut Brady stuff. I almost think you are doing it just to try to prove a point when it a horrible example to use...
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Originally Posted by AndyJohnson
He has not at all been an upgrade over McCourty. He has helped the D by allowing McCourty to upgrade the safety position, but it is ridiculous to say Talib has played better at corner as a Patriot this season than McCourty, simply ridiculous.
I know there is a lot of hope for Talib to play well, but he has been awful in 2 games (remember everyone blamed the first one on rustiness) and has missed others. He has not been above average in any way, other than the hopes of fans. Yes, if healthy he can be, but that hasn't happened on the field consistently yet.
We'll agree to disagree here. Talib represents an upgrade over McCourty.
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Originally Posted by AndyJohnson
But health is the most important part of the equation. You can't pay or value a guy who has health issues as if they didn't exist.
I think we can agree that for the last 2 seasons Vollmer has been an average RT at best, and an unreliable one as well. Right?
I think hes been above average.
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Originally Posted by AndyJohnson
Where do you get #16 of all NFL OL? Did you make that up?
And that was his best season ever and he hasn't played nearly as well in 2 years.
I read it somewhere. The criteria was sacks allowed, # 4yd gains to their side, hurries allowed, stuff like that. He finished #16 in You know I do not make stuff up.
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Originally Posted by AndyJohnson
There is no such statistic and even the bogus ones don't put him there.
Well you are wrong because i read it. I think it was in football outsiders. I read it once the pats acquired him.
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Originally Posted by AndyJohnson
Many players have obscure awards, that doesnt mean they are one of the top 50 players in the league, especially 2 years, and many issues later.
Do we agree neither has ever made a probowl, meaning the peers and coaches have never had them in the top 100 in any season?.
I think when healthy and playing up to their ability they are dominant players. Call it top 50. Your ranking is different than mine.
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I didn't say he sucks, but top 50 is ridiculous, totally ridiculous.
Of course you won't find anyone anywhere arguing Welker is not in the top 50, and that is the less risky guy you are championing keeping these risky ones ahead of while at the same time ignoring the design of our offense, the best offense in the NFL, revolves around Welkers role.
I don't think the offense resolves around WWs role. The offense is designed around TB's strengths of reading defenses and making decisions that put the offense in the best position to suceed.
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Re: A little early, but: should the Patriots try to re-sign Wes Welker?
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Originally Posted by JackBauer
Curious but how and with whom do you plan on replacing Welker, should the Patriots decide to follow your course of action?
Don't forget, it's more than just letting him go if he's asking too much. He's letting him just walk away after a Super Bowl win:
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Let him win this Sb and then walk, focus on defense.
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Re: A little early, but: should the Patriots try to re-sign Wes Welker?
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