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Old 12-13-2012, 02:53 PM   #1
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Default OK Geniuses...You're the OC...beat the Pats.

Put on the Daddy shoes.

You tell me. How do you beat this defense?

I got to thinking in another thread...why don't teams pass more on the Pats? Why on earth would any team try to ground and pound the Pats. They have too much depth on the D line for that. Plus the likes of Spikes, and Hightower....slow(ish) thumpers. Why wouldn't you use your tight ends against these guys. While you're trying to establish the running game, Brady has rung up 14 on your ass and the game's virtually over.

What gives this D fits?

Small, speedy 3rd down backs? TE's? The Pennington/Henne's of the world? Quick, short passes...take what the 'bend but don't break' gives you?

This D eats up gunslingers and makes you pay for your mistakes.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:54 PM   #2
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Hail Mary after Hail Mary after Hail Mary.


That's how Seattle scored on us.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:01 PM   #3
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put in third stringers with the instructions to "play as dirty as possible"

spend the first half cutting guys knees out, to the point where half the patriots have been ejected.

put starters back in.
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DO NOT TURN THE BALL OVER - easily most important yet so many seem to struggle with this.

Make plays in the passing game.
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Use the Pats offense.

Seriously, that's the best way to beat the Pats:

1. A good shifty slot receiver

2. A good 3rd down possession receiver

3. A TE threat over the middle

4. A QB that doesn't turn the ball over.

5. The willingness to persist with a run game through four quarters.

All of those would exploit our defenses weak spots. we're weak over the middle with our hefty linebackers, Arrington is playing very well in the slot but I'd worry about him going up against a Welker type and we rely so much on winning the turnover battle.
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Chuck it deep on the sideline every play. It's either a long completion or a defensive PI no matter what.

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Chuck it deep on the sideline every play. It's either a long completion or a defensive PI no matter what.

Yeah, you're going to lose anyhow, might as well chuck it.
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Use the Pats offense.

Seriously, that's the best way to beat the Pats:

1. A good shifty slot receiver

2. A good 3rd down possession receiver

3. A TE threat over the middle

4. A QB that doesn't turn the ball over.

5. The willingness to persist with a run game through four quarters.

All of those would exploit our defenses weak spots. we're weak over the middle with our hefty linebackers, Arrington is playing very well in the slot but I'd worry about him going up against a Welker type and we rely so much on winning the turnover battle.
So basically the Patriot offense?

I'm with the others. The Seattle and Giants O is a good model:

A fleet of tall 6' + recievers with deep shots down field is the best way to beat the Pats D.
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But in the playoffs a good team at 99% will not beat emotional, talented teams that play at 100%. It's what happened against the Giants in 2011 and the Ravens in 2012.
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First, don't turn the ball over. Second, do not get greedy. The pats will give you the short throw almost every time. Take it. Don't run on 3rd down. If you understand that for the most part, you will need 10-15 play drives to score, you will be fine.
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Teams run the ball as much as they do because the Pats use "sub" packages on over half their snaps. Unless they're playing against a heavily run-oriented offense (like the Texans, as well as the 9ers) the game-plan seems to be make the opponent try to run the Pats out of the nickel.

This is one of the reasons I think Jerod Mayo is severely underrated by a lot of Pats fans -- only McCourty has logged more defensive snaps per game than Mayo, and no other LB is really that close. Mayo's smarts, instincts and range make him an ideal sub-package LB, and he and the tandem of him and Wilfork make the Pats unusually solid against the run with lighter personnel on the field.
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