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Old 12-03-2012, 11:28 AM   #1
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I don't see us re-signing Vollmer. Sure, we'll make a fair offer. But some other team will see a pro-bowler in his healthy games and hope that he can stay healthy. The patriots understand his health situation much better. IMHO, Cannon was drafted to play RT.
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His injury history doesn't suggest to me a player that will be in this league after a few more years.
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I don't see us re-signing Vollmer. Sure, we'll make a fair offer. But some other team will see a pro-bowler in his healthy games and hope that he can stay healthy. The patriots understand his health situation much better. IMHO, Cannon was drafted to play RT.
Why would us understanding his health issues be a disadvantage? No team is going to ignore them. If you know he has a chronic back problem, I'm pretty sure 32 GMs do too.
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Why would us understanding his health issues be a disadvantage? No team is going to ignore them. If you know he has a chronic back problem, I'm pretty sure 32 GMs do too.
I see Vollmer's back issues as keeping his market value and price down to within reasonable range. I think the Pats would structure any long term deal in 2 parts, with the option to move on in a few years if Vollmer's back proves to be an issue. Maybe 3+2 years, with an roster bonus to kick in year 4.
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Oddly, I think his back issue may make it more likely the Patriots will re-sign him.
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Oddly, I think his back issue may make it more likely the Patriots will re-sign him.
Agreed and if not Cannon will step in. I trust in Dante. We didn't really miss Woody when he left?
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Also agree the back issues sort of work in our favor in regards to potentially keeping him.
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I did not say that more knowledge would put the patriots at a disadvantage. Yes, all teams can do their physicals and know about his history. My belief is that SOME ONE team will pay more than the patriots because we will discount his value more than they will because of his health issues.

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I think Vollmer's health issues and Scar's ability to make chicken salad out of chicken **** will hurt Vollmer's value. If health wasn't a concern, there would still be a certain segment of the league who believe Vollmer is a product of the system.

With his health concerns, Vollmer is likely to be offered more of a short term, incentive laiden deal rather than a long term deal with a lot of guarantees. If that is the case, the Pats are very much in the mix for his services.
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