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Old 11-28-2012, 07:26 AM   #101
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$1.64M. RT @Wade_Harrison If claimed, what's the new team cap hit for Babin? Original 5.5 or 1.6 balance?
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Old 11-28-2012, 08:21 AM   #102
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Yes, interesting tidbit there about the Lions using the Wide - 9 defense that helped Babin pile up the sacks.

Color me as very doubtful the Patriots end up with this guy. Doesn't seem at all a fit to the organization (due to his attitude) or the defensive scheme.
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Babin was widely regarded as a classic me-first player who epitomized the struggles of this year’s Eagles. He was awful against the run, which is a direct result of the Wide 9 defense but also a reflection of Babin’s obsessiveness with accumulating sacks and only sacks.
Another article mentioned that if he got 2.5 more sacks this season he would be due a 400K bonus. the above says why they cut him and the bonus probably explains the WHY NOW (2.5 is possible in a single game).

I dont know that he would be worth much to BB's system. taking him on a waiver is not quite the same level of risk as the haynesworth deal (that was much less); so at this point with what has been said - I doubt the Pats even put in on waiver.
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no it doesn't... learn your damn facts rookie.

Now go get me some water...
He's not entirely wrong: for the first three or four weeks of the season, waiver wire priority IS based on the previous year's records.

But this late in the season, it is based on current records.
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It sucks but there's no way we land him. Too many teams in front of us that can put the waiver in on him.
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Another article mentioned that if he got 2.5 more sacks this season he would be due a 400K bonus. the above says why they cut him and the bonus probably explains the WHY NOW (2.5 is possible in a single game).
Slightly OT - but it's very interesting to see the Eagles making player personnel changes when it seems clear that Reid and co. aren't going to be around much longer.

The commonly used rationale for releasing Babin (aside from your astute observation regarding a bonus) has been that they want to see Vinny Curry play. Who is "they" in this case? Reid has the say in "football matters" and it seems clear that he knows he's out.

I'm confused by folks who want to use planning for the future as rationale as if this release occurred in a parallel universe where Andy Reid has a future with the Eagles.
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Slightly OT - but it's very interesting to see the Eagles making player personnel changes when it seems clear that Reid and co. aren't going to be around much longer.

The commonly used rationale for releasing Babin (aside from your astute observation regarding a bonus) has been that they want to see Vinny Curry play. Who is "they" in this case? Reid has the say in "football matters" and it seems clear that he knows he's out.

I'm confused by folks who want to use planning for the future as rationale as if this release occurred in a parallel universe where Andy Reid has a future with the Eagles.
Reid is the one who made the call. My guess? He would rather end his tenure with the Eagles giving reps to players he like and who he thinks deserve them.

If you're gonna be run out of town anyways he might as well.
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Hopefully he's right. Then, he could chose where he wants to go and New England would be high on his list, I'm sure. (assuming we don't get him through waivers, of course).

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Talked to 4 team execs about Babin last night. All expect him to clear waivers. Find that surprising, given value of pass rushers. We'll see
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"One, any time you see Andy Reid come across your caller ID, you know [laughs] it's probably not a good thing.

"But two, [laughs] all I could do was was -- almost -- I laughed. I was like [while laughing], 'Alright, coach. if that's what what you gotta do.' It was just -- I don't know -- caught me off guard."
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Hopefully he's right. Then, he could chose where he wants to go and New England would be high on his list, I'm sure. (assuming we don't get him through waivers, of course).

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Talked to 4 team execs about Babin last night. All expect him to clear waivers. Find that surprising, given value of pass rushers. We'll see
I'm not. 6 different teams including 2 separate stints with the Iggles.

Something is not right with this guy.
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