DaBruinz

Wow. You don't know much about the league's PEDs program. According to Section 39, Article 7 (b), the league is using the 2010 Policy and Program for Substance Abuse with the addendum to do blood testing for HGH (which isn't in force yet).

http://images.nflplayers.com/mediaRe...g%20Policy.pdf

Scroll down to page 6 and start reading. You'll find that testing goes on a LOT more than what you suggest. All players are tested in Pre-season. Players are tested who want to be signed by clubs and haven't been tested in the previous 4 months.

Oh, as for refusing or skipping a test, here's what it says on page 10:

And reading further, once you test positive you enter into the "Intervention Stages". And there you can be tested as little or as much as is deemed necessary by the Medical Director.

So, you acting like there aren't some pretty harsh consequences and that testing positive for a PED is no big deal is way off base. It's a big deal.

jays52

For what it's worth, 1,3 dimethylamylamine are on the list of nfl banned substances. It was originally designed as a nasal decongestent (like synephrine) but was also included in an extremely popular pre-workout supplement, Jack3d. The FDA took steps to ban DMMT earlier this year because some retarded kids in NZ started doing rails of the crap while drinking, and in the words of Bill Hicks, lightened the world. It is still on a whole bunch of shelves, but is banned by WADA and consequently the NFL. It is an extremely popular and common supplement. It's not the sole purpose of the powder, as that's largely to enhance the delivery of creatine to the muscles through an arginine dosage. In short, it's a powder designed to get you bouncing off the walls, give you bigger pumps, and put more water in your cells. It's sold as a way of increasing your workout capacity, and it does give you some artificial inflation. Having taken the stuff, I can say with certainty that it works and works well. It makes you a little stronger, absolutely does contribute to endurance, and gives you really good focus. It will help you lift heavier, more explosively, and for longer. Logically, it's perfect for football training. While it is effective, it is far from juice, HGH, or andro.

I think a lot of these suspensions are coming from something along the lines of jack3d. Aderal sounds like a dumb move, workout supplement sounds like your injecting deca into your ass. Juice is actually bad for sports like football where you need significant tendon strength, and juice really does make you weaker. It's easier to spin stuff as Aderal than it is to say it was a workout supplement, and I think that pre-workout supplements have something to do with this.

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PatsWickedPissah

Wait! Isn't this Adderal the name of Princess Leia's planet that Darth Vader blew up with the Death Star?

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manxman2601

I'm not happy with just a four game ban, but that seems a little strong too me. That's zero-tolerance I suppose.

Claremonster

Is this similar to bath salts? Will he turn into Michael Jackson and start eating people? Zombie like?

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chris_in_sunnyvale

Darth Vader was very overprotective of Adderal users getting anywhere near his daughter.

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Froob

The adderall outbreak continues. When will Godell put an end to this madness?

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denverpatsfan

Not good. (2) of the toughest games coming up too. I hope the 3rd and 4th stringers are up to the task.

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supafly

Since Myron Pryor was kept on PUP for the year and not activated, his contract rolls over another year and he does not become a free agent in February like he was supposed to, he will still be the property of the NEP until February of 2014.

Of course, that is assuming that they still want him. They may at least keep him throughout TC for potential camp fodder at the very least, or he may actually be able to finally stay healthy enough to try and play for an entire year.

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TyronePoole

That section on page 10 (3(f)) applies only to those already in the intervention program. Section 3 on page 8 begins by saying:

Stage one intervention ends after 90 days E(1)(h)(1) pg. 14:

If they fail to get dismissed from stage one and advance to stage two, they are then subject to random testing for a total of 2 years at which point E[2](d):

if you listen to the JRE podcast with Victor Conte that I linked to a few pages ago he talks extensively about the following loophole:

Basically he said that steroids are primarily taken in the offseason, with the effects lasting well into the season but the ability to test positive ending just before preseason testing starts. EPO, the second most popular PED can be taken right before gameday (when no testing is conducted) and be gone by Monday morning (the earliest point at which a player can be tested again.

He specifically said that zero testing goes on in the offseason since the league usually doesn't bother and when they do for intervention stage players the player can simply be "out of town" and unable to reschedule until it's out of his system and the MA can't do much about it.

This all adds up to the reality that hardly anyone in the NFL ever gets popped twice (I can't think of anyone can you?) and only the real unlucky/stupid few manage to get caught.

I'll link it again since it's worth a listen if you can get by all the Rogan nonsense:

JRE #277 - Victor Conte, Brian Redban on Vimeo

like the Olympics, what's on paper about the testing program doesn't necessarily reflect the practice in reality. on paper the Olympics used to have some of the most rigorous standards imagineable, when in reality athletes were given advanced notice, could skip events where testing would be conducted, had virtually no supervision while testing and tests were frequently thrown out. The "discretion" it refers to is reportedly as lax as can be, which makes sense considering how few of them get caught.