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Re: Bedard's Indy film review: Pressure may be short lived
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Originally Posted by AndyJohnson
To me it sounded like Bedard decided what the article was going to be about then went to the film to fill in the blanks. Calling a Big Ben and a rookie QBs who dont make mistakes unless you pressure them is quite a stretch, IMO.
Again, Bedard should stick to reporting, not analysis.
Interesting how he ends the beginning part of the article by saying he wants BB to change but he doesn't expect him to because what he does has been very successful for a long time.
Not sure what you mean by analysis. As an ANALYST I find him pretty good at analyzing the games past and identifying trends which occurred and pointing out little nuances.
As a PROGNOSTICATOR (part of analysis maybe - but I see it more projecting and predicting that analysis into the future as a different task) I would agree he leaves something to be desired.
That said this part made me go ??
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Overall, neither Cunningham nor Trevor Scott impressed after Chandler Jones (half-stuff in 11 snaps) went out with a right foot injury. If he’s out, that’s a huge concern.
I thought cunningham was in on Luck a good bit and another media-analyst reported he was "giving the RT fits all day". So not sure if he is on the money here (except for about TS).
Also would agree the comparing Luck to Rothlisberger is somewhat of a stretch; except that both are "growing up" or "grew up" in an Arians offense. So I think that coaching-similarity/game-design similarity is really the key to getting the same treatment; not any similarity between a rookie and an 8 year pro.
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Re: Bedard's Indy film review: Pressure may be short lived
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Originally Posted by dannydyn
This little statement just made me think.... I don't think I recall a single Lloyd reception where he generated ANY YAC... Am I wrong? All the catches he's made, he always falls or slides down.
When Lloyd was asked what type of production he'd bring to the pats in an interview he said "I get a lot of chunk yardage 10,15, 20 yards at a time"(something to that effect) and also said he's not the type of guy to get a lot of YAC. I can't remember who the interview was with, just his comments.
Seems like he's been true to his word, almost every catch he makes is at least 10 yards or more. I'd like to see more 20-40+ yarders.
The one thing I found unexpected about his performance is that he's dropped easy passes and caught virtually impossible ones...
Last edited by robbomango; 11-21-2012 at 09:26 AM..
Re: Bedard's Indy film review: Pressure may be short lived
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Originally Posted by robbomango
When Lloyd was asked what type of production he'd bring to the pats in an interview he said "I get a lot of chunk yardage 10,15, 20 yards at a time"(something to that effect) and also said he's not the type of guy to get a lot of YAC. I can't remember who the interview was with, just his comments.
Seems like he's been true to his word, almost every catch he makes is at least 10 yards or more. I'd like to see more 20-40+ yarders.
The one thing I found unexpected about his performance is that he's dropped easy passes and caught virtually impossible ones...
He's been open for a few of those 20-40 yarders, but the throw has been off the mark because the chemistry just hasn't fully developed yet.
Re: Bedard's Indy film review: Pressure may be short lived
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Originally Posted by JackBauer
I thought it was a little curious that Bedard gave the RBs a 4/5 and the OL a 4.5/5 given the struggles they had running the ball.
The pass blocking was generally excellent but, to my eyes anyway, the run blocking was lacking (McDonald seemed to struggle there a bit) and it seemed that Ridley, in particular, was seldom getting to the line without being met first by a defender.
Bedard missed by a mile there. Too often the RBs were hit before the LOS or precisely at the LOS. I fault the guards. However, given that it's our 2nd team, props to Dante and to the players themselves as Brady did not face strong up the middle pressure.
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Re: Bedard's Indy film review: Pressure may be short lived
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Originally Posted by AndyJohnson
Different schemes work against different offenses.
We have 2 recent articles that suggest blitzing vs the Bills would have been foolhard, and blitzing vs the Colts makes sense. Right or wrong, they clearly explain that different approaches work better or worse against different offenses. "The scheme' is to game plan for the opponent.
Pressuring the QB works against every type of offense. This is where I agree with those you say the issue is personnel: this Patriots' defense doesn't have the experienced talent needed to be as varied in approach as Belichick would want.
It would be nice if it was, but it isn't. If you want this defense to maximize its effectiveness, it has to continue being aggressive and creative in how it pressures the QB. You can use Brandon Spikes in coverage or you can use him rushing up the middle to hurry the QB. Frankly, regardless of the opposition, the latter is the better way to go.
Re: Bedard's Indy film review: Pressure may be short lived
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Originally Posted by PatsWickedPissah
Bedard missed by a mile there. Too often the RBs were hit before the LOS or precisely at the LOS. I fault the guards. However, given that it's our 2nd team, props to Dante and to the players themselves as Brady did not face strong up the middle pressure.
One thing I've noticed in the last couple of games is how aggressively the bills and colts defenses attacked the middle of the LOS when Brady was under center and Ridley (especially) was lined up behind him. The Pats spend so much time in their spread offense that when they line up in a base formation it practically screams that a run is coming.
It's a good thing that teams are respecting the Pats running game enough to risk getting beat with play action to try to stop it. But, I wish the Pats did a better job of not tipping off their running plays.
Re: Bedard's Indy film review: Pressure may be short lived
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Originally Posted by Kenneth Sims
Pressuring the QB works against every type of offense. This is where I agree with those you say the issue is personnel: this Patriots' defense doesn't have the experienced talent needed to be as varied in approach as Belichick would want.
It would be nice if it was, but it isn't. If you want this defense to maximize its effectiveness, it has to continue being aggressive and creative in how it pressures the QB. You can use Brandon Spikes in coverage or you can use him rushing up the middle to hurry the QB. Frankly, regardless of the opposition, the latter is the better way to go.
Loved Bruschi and he was a college pass rusher but time and again he'd rush up the middle and get knocked down. Those times he didn't were memorable big plays though. Given Spikes' Bledsoe like mobility defending the pass, if he's on the field on a passing down the design should be for him to blitz. At the least he'll beat the snot out of an offensive player, wearing him down.
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Re: Bedard's Indy film review: Pressure may be short lived
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Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks
Says the increased pressure we witnessed on Sunday was the result of facing a Bruce Arians offense and QB he feared would make the downfield throws and not make mistakes unless pressured to. Says BB plays the % much of the time believing enough QB mistakes will be made absent it. Would like to see that change, doubts it will.
My only thing with that is if the blitzing was the gameplan going in where was it the first two series?
The improvement came after Belichick got the D together and broke out the white board.
I'm just saying wouldn't Bill want the defense that only allowed 200 yards on the seven drives that forced 3 punts*, 2 int, 1 ff and only allowed 3 pts rather than the 164 yards and 2 td allowed on the first two drives.
*I consider the long FG that Vinateri missed at the end of the half a punt.
Re: Bedard's Indy film review: Pressure may be short lived
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Originally Posted by Cassanova792
So the change of scheme/philosophy, though short lived, DOES make a big difference. Where are the doubters now who proclaimed our defense, especially our secondary, was terrible due to talent ALONE and not scheme. You know who you are.
The team blitzed the Colts because the Colts have:
A QB who gambles on his throws
A poor offensive line
A poor running game
The coaching staff, which you spend your time bashing, is good enough to understand that and plan accordingly. The coaching staff is also good enough to understand that they can't do that with every team, because they don't have the defensive secondary they'd need to pull it off. They alson blitzed the Rams because the Rams line stinks and Bradford withers under pressure.
When you've got personnel problems, you have to scheme to cover them up or minimize them. Since BB believes that the worst thing you can do is give up a TD in one big play, his approach is going to be that of defending against the big play before anything else, and it's worked to the tune of 5 Super Bowl appearances in 10 years. I don't know why you can't seem to figure that out.
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