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The guy makes it seem so easy to do, It's an unbelievable accomplishment having a 7 to 1 TD/INT ratio. (like 2007 and 2010)
Isnt this why we consider him one of the best ever
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The way I look at it, is this. They are very close in a lot of categories and Manning slightly edges Brady in completion % and has a few more TD's. But he doesn't turn heads in any one category.
Are Petyton's numbers in any one category clearly above Brady's or above that what we would expect out of an elite, MVP contending QB? The answer is no.
Are Brady's numbers in any one category clearly above Peyton's or above that what we would expect out of an elite, MVP contending QB? The answer is yes.
Brady's interception is a pristine 0.8% on 393 Attempts. Manning has a pretty typical-among elites- 1.9% interception percentage on 372 attempts.
Now, Brady's number could easily go sour if he has one bad game, but at least as of right now Brady is head and shoulders in at least one category over Peyton Manning. Aaron Rodgers had a 1.7% interception efficiency last year.
When was the last time another quarterback had almost 400 attempts and 0.8% interception % or better through 10 weeks? 2010. Tom Brady. Finished the season with that number and only 4 interceptions for the season. Who was the MVP in 2010? Tom Brady.
So let's see what happens going forward, but I'm pretty certain Brady is IN THE ZONE right now.
That's it? That's your answer to your obvious confusion and disingenuousness?
Deduct them, add them, it doesn't matter. That's the point we're making.
We're saying, COMPARE THEM. It's not just about throwing TDs, scoring is also important.
Don't you agree?
How else am I supposed to respond? One guy was whining about Manning throwing a lot of TDs inside the 10. My post was directed at him. I don't really care if that is clear to you or not.
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In 2012, Brady is having an amazing year, but Manning is getting more love for throwing 3 more TD's, even though he's consistently throwing for TD near the goal line, whereas Brady is handing it off more at the goal line and leading his team to more points (and against arguably better defenses). In an MVP discussion, the two are close, and something like this should factor in.
You're trying to make the argument that Brady did the same thing in 2007, but there's a major difference. That difference is that there was nobody even close to Brady that season.
Manning isn't getting more love because he has 24 TDs vs. Brady's 21. He's not even being compared to Brady. Brady isn't even in the narrative. He's getting more love because he's coming off a terrible injury that knocked him out for a season and there were serious questions about whether he could play at all, let alone at an MVP level again.
For one, Brady did do the same thing in '07. He didn't necessarily have anyone who was a close competitor for the MVP race, but again, I was simply referring to the one guy who says "I hate Manning because everytime i watch the Broncos play, dude never hands off the ball in the red zone even on the 1 yard line."
By that logic he should hate Tom Brady, too.
If you want to talk about the MVP race, then I completely disagree that short TDs should be somehow discounted. It's generally accepted that running is the preferred inside the 10, particularly inside the 3-4 yd line. When a team with a solid RB, like McGahee, decides to throw in those areas, it simply highlights the VALUE they put on their QB.
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How else am I supposed to respond? One guy was whining about Manning throwing a lot of TDs inside the 10. My post was directed at him. I don't really care if that is clear to you or not.
He wasn't whining. He was making a direct comparison.
What don't you get about this?
Why is it so hard to understand?
We're saying the Patriots have as many non-passing TDs as they do passing TDs, and that furthermore, they have a lot of runs for TDs, while other QBs are throwing it there.
Good for them, we're saying, but it DOES make a difference that Brady is leading his team into positions where they score beaucoup TDs compared to the competition.
If you want to talk about the MVP race, then I completely disagree that short TDs should be somehow discounted. It's generally accepted that running is the preferred inside the 10, particularly inside the 3-4 yd line. When a team with a solid RB, like McGahee, decides to throw in those areas, it simply highlights the VALUE they put on their QB.
We're saying Tom should be credited for leading his team to 14 more rushing TDs.