Cassanova792

Umm where have you been last year? Our pass defense was atrocious, second to last in the league if i remember correctly and this was with different players yet same outcome.

Gwedd

No. There's a number of reasons. Young. Complex schemes. Injuries. Coming off the bye week. Young. Inexperienced. Did I mention complex schemes? Young. Rookies.

And by the way, EVERY single game in the AFCE is a dogfight, no matter how the score works out. these teams, these players, these coaches all see each other twice a year.

I'd certainly like to see Coach Belichick release the hounds and have some more blitzes, bring the house and slam into the opponent's offense.

BUT, until we can do that and show that our corners can consistently cover, that the ends can consistently get into the backfield and hurry/sack the QB, then I'm not uncomfortable with what's been going on.

What I know is that building a solid defense takes time, and the problem with that is you also have to play the game in the mean time. Fortunately, New England has an excellent, though banged-up offense, that can bail them out most of the time.

I know that everyone wants perfection now, but that ain't gonna happen. Grit your teeth, gird your loins, and buckle up because it's gonna be a bumpy ride for a bit.

In the end, however, this defense is gonna be a top-shelf D. I'll be there to see it, even when all the haters have taken a number and que'd up for the diving board off the Tobin Bridge.

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MTM558

I like Patricia as a coach. But as DC? I'm not sure. I still think Pepper Johnson should be allowed a chance to show what he's made of.

If We bring back Romeo should he be fired by the Chiefs, I'd give him a chance.

PATRIOTSFANINPA

After watching tonight's game one question for you guys......

If Wade Phillips was our DC,do you really think the secondary would be any better than the crap we put out there just about every Sunday for the past 2 years?

The answer is simple ...no

Guys like Wade have talented players who succeed because they ARE talented,if Wade had scrubs like these in NE,he would not be too successful.

I don't like Patricia,Boyer ect: but it's not them,its the talent,lack of or inexperience that keeps this defense in the bottom half of the league

Not even a HOF DC could get these guys to perform to standard......we live with Brady carrying the team once again and accept the defense for what it is or you might have to switch your fandom to another team.

Cassanova792

Our defense is anything but complex. They are just simple zone schemes. Even all the Boston sports writers are pointing out how Vanilla our defense is.

So you refuse to try a new approach even though the old one has CLEARLY not been working? Since we get burned regardless of how many people are dropping back and covering, why not try something new? Why must we keep playing the same way and hoping for the best? The way i look at it is that, we need to blitz consistently to take the pressure off the secondary. If it don't work and they score a touchdown, so what! With out defense they were going to score regardless! Death by papercut it seems!

When we consistently play soft zone schemes like this with no pressure on the opposing QB, no matter how good a CB is someone will get open eventually, unfortunately with out CB's they find it sooner rather than later. The opponent can move up and down the field at will with no pressure. This in effect when we play our current soft zone, will inevitebly succeed in two things: scoring and keeping Tom Brady and our offense off the field.

fair catch fryar

IDK as constituted and from what they've shown this team might win a playoff game, but that's it. They won't be able to go punch for punch with the likes of the Texans.

nekromantique

Kareem Jackson was pretty terrible until this year...guys can be coached up


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Cassanova792

Our defense is one of the best and most opportunistic in takeaways in the league, same as last year. We have a very formidable front 7, yet somehow we are one of the worst defenses in the league. This tells me we have talent, scheme is the issue and a coach like Wade can absolutely turn this defense around, more so than Patricia.

Deus Irae

Last year's defensive talent sucked yet, with coaching, it was able to come in at #15 in scoring and held playoff opponents to 10,20 and 21 points.

This year's defensive talent is better than last year's defensive talent and, before today, was #12 in scoring.

People here, both homer and Chicken Little, struggle with separating terrible play from terrible results.

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Cassanova792

You are obviously ignoring the fact we were second to last in every other statistical category except defensive rushing yards per game and as you noted scoring. Maybe this has to do with the fact we have a very talented front 7, which perhaps helps save a few points off the board. Also having the #1 offense probably helps your defense a little doesnt it?

So by holding Tim Tebow and the Broncos offense to 10 points is a suprise to you? He can do everything BUT pass as a QB. Hardly an indicator of talent performance in our secondary.

Holding the Ravens and Giants to 20 and 21 points is moderately successful considering it's only a .4-1.4 difference on their points per game season average like you stated. :/