How much can Aqib Talib help our Secondary? - Page 4 - New England Patriots Forums

RodThePat · 11-12-2012, 08:20 AM

It all depends on what kind of coverage scheme they decide to run. If they keep McCourty at safety, they'll probably start Talib and Dennard at CB, two guys whose strengths lie in press-man coverage. If they keep playing zone all game, I don't think Talib will help them a whole lot. Dennard looked completely lost at times on Sunday, I don't see why they'd take a young player and have him play the majority of the time in a way that doesn't suit what he's best at.

PATSYLICIOUS · 11-12-2012, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Big-T

If Talib can somewhat hold down his side of the field on his own it means McCourty can cheat more towards Dennard's side so he has safety help over the top...that would obviously mean some sort of improvement.

They key though, they HAVE to play man to man press coverage, Talib & Dennard are made for that.

This. He can't do it alone but he can have a major impact. Still need Dennard, Cole/Arrington at #3, and the pass rush to step up though. It is possible.

patsfan-1982 · 11-12-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ivanvamp

They shut down Sam Bradford and the Rams pretty well a couple of weeks ago.

if only they could play Sam Bradford and that jeff fisher defense ever week in the playoffs lol

i think this defense dose have some talent but most of it is in the front 7 im hopeing that Talib will balance the defense out and they will start playing much better vs the pass because there are a few team in the AFC playoffs with the type of defeses that could hold brady under 20 points and if and when that happens the defense will have to punch right back and get a INT or a fast 3 and out

***AndyJohnson*** · 11-12-2012, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bostonia3333

As long as Matt Patricia is still the DC, Talib is gonna stink. The culture and DNA needs to change as it starts from the top

The culture of the winning franchise in the league is what you assess as the 'problem'? Interesting

***AndyJohnson*** · 11-12-2012, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by woolster22

Who made the pick? Put him at cb and he keeps his back turned and gets flagged for pi...

Right because he has been flagged for pi twice this year, so that means it will happen every play

***DarrylS*** · 11-12-2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MTM558

Based on yesterday's available personnel and how McCourty played at Safety, I think it's fair to say he will be playing there for the remainder of the season, if not permanently.

That would mean a starting Secondary of:

LCB: Alfonzo Dennard
RCB: Aqib Talib
SS: Steve Gregory/Patrick Chung
FS: Devin McCourty

Tavon Wilson hardly played yesterday, which makes me think they've lost confidence in him as a starter, at this point in his development. What will be interesting is when Chung is healthy. Does he replace Gregory in the lineup or play bench?

It may be as simple as experience, two weeks ago the combined NFL experience of the starting DB's was 5 years... it is a huge leap from Illinois to the New England Patriots..

They have not played many games together.. things will get better.

leehanu · 11-12-2012, 02:10 PM

Why hasn't Aqib Talib not reported yet???

Sicilian · 11-12-2012, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by leehanu

Why hasn't Aqib Talib not reported yet???

If I remember correctly, he can't report until Tuesday due to his suspension.

I would temper your expectations for Talib in the Colts game. It may take a few weeks for everyone to gel together with him, especially if it's Chung's first game back from injury too. With any luck, they'll be in good form for the Houston and San Fran games.

***BradyFTW!*** · 11-12-2012, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MTM558

Based on yesterday's available personnel and how McCourty played at Safety, I think it's fair to say he will be playing there for the remainder of the season, if not permanently.

That would mean a starting Secondary of:

LCB: Alfonzo Dennard
RCB: Aqib Talib
SS: Steve Gregory/Patrick Chung
FS: Devin McCourty

Tavon Wilson hardly played yesterday, which makes me think they've lost confidence in him as a starter, at this point in his development. What will be interesting is when Chung is healthy. Does he replace Gregory in the lineup or play bench?

It could be that, or it could be that Gregory's return to health plus McCourty's move to safety instantly put two 'better' candidates than him on the field. Considering how unimpressive Gregory was, though, I would hope to see a lot more of Wilson going forward. He got a lot of much-deserved ridicule for giving up that deep TD at the start of the Rams game, but he actually has a good amount of range/athleticism, which is exactly what the Pats' safeties will need if they're going to start playing a lot of press coverage (which you have to assume they will, if Dennard and Talib are the two main guys moving forward).

ThatllMoveTheChains!!! · 11-12-2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyJohnson

The culture of the winning franchise in the league is what you assess as the 'problem'? Interesting

Worst 6-3 team that lost the superbowl last season in the league... can't argue with that now can you? The timing of that worst fans in the league article sure was opportune.