The OFFICIAL Patriots vs Bills PostGame Thread

[Patriot Missile]

Originally Posted by Joker

yeah, he IS doing that...but it's like a robot with a limited hard drive...as far as coaching the team the WAY BB wants...uh...you're out of your mind...NOBODY coaches arm tackling and just jogging as the runner runs right past you for an extra 20 yards...TODAY was the worst display of defensive tackling I've seen out of a BB team since he took over

Oh I could think of a few in 2002 that would make your head spin.

How did this thread turn into a post defend the defense thread. They were terrible today. Spin it any way you want. Youth, inexperience, coaching. Yeah, they made enough plays to win the game but being constantly out of position to make plays is either a learning disability on the players or a teaching problem by the coaches.

[CityOfChampions]

Originally Posted by Fball

They have some legit gripes about the officiating, imo. Tough loss for them today.

Legit gripes? 1 really bad pass interference call and a questionable hold call. That's not the reason they lost the football game. Plus the commenter made that comment about the all-time series Brady v.s. the Bills.

[Joker]

Originally Posted by Patriot Missile

Oh I could think of a few in 2002 that would make your head spin.

yeah..I remember the Steve Martin season..he had a bazillion sacks and tackles in pre and post game interviews..unfortunately none of them occurred in a game....the more I decompress and take in what I saw this afternoon, the more I think the Pats took the bye week off and came in thinking they'd cakewalk a dead team...it wasn't just one or two players making attempted tackles and missing, it was all the players at one time or another...they make a hit at the LOS or behind it, and the runner breaks out of it, another hit, and he breaks from that...and then you see the DE just loafing down the field as the runner sprints right past him,without even the merest hint of effort...THAT is what was disturbing me earlier....I have to think the coaching staff is going to be breaking balls in practice this week, stressing play to the whistle.

[Deus Irae]

Originally Posted by CityOfChampions

Legit gripes? 1 really bad pass interference call and a questionable hold call. That's not the reason they lost the football game. Plus the commenter made that comment about the all-time series Brady v.s. the Bills.

2 of the PI calls in the end zone were terrible calls on uncatchable passes.

[CityOfChampions]

Originally Posted by Deus Irae

2 of the PI calls in the end zone were terrible calls on uncatchable passes.

What was the other bad PI? The only clearly bad one was the uncatchable pass to Lloyd.

[Deus Irae]

Originally Posted by CityOfChampions

What was the other bad PI? The only clearly bad one was the uncatchable pass to Lloyd.

The throw to Gronk

[CityOfChampions]

Originally Posted by Deus Irae

The throw to Gronk

I'll need to see it again but it looked like a PI to me during the game replay.

[Fball]

Originally Posted by CityOfChampions

I'll need to see it again but it looked like a PI to me during the game replay.

Ball wasn't catchable. Those 2 PI calls, and the phantom holding on Glenn when the Bills were driving, were huge calls in the game.

It's part of football, but a team like the Bills generally needs all of the breaks to beat a team like the Pats. The stripes didn't do them any favors today.

[Sciz]

Can anybody say with complete certainty that had he not been interfered with, that Gronk had no chance of laying out and getting his hands under the pass? From the two very pixelated views I saw, I'm not ready to rule that out, and that's what the ref would have had to do to say it was uncatchable. It's one thing to say a pass is uncatchable when it ends up 5 yards out of bounds (the second PI in question), but another to say that a ball is uncatchable when it lands in play and the intended receiver isn't allowed to cleanly make the cut toward the ball.

[Deus Irae]

Originally Posted by CityOfChampions

I'll need to see it again but it looked like a PI to me during the game replay.

Originally Posted by Sciz

Can anybody say with complete certainty that had he not been interfered with, that Gronk had no chance of laying out and getting his hands under the pass? From the two very pixelated views I saw, I'm not ready to rule that out, and that's what the ref would have had to do to say it was uncatchable. It's one thing to say a pass is uncatchable when it ends up 5 yards out of bounds (the second PI in question), but another to say that a ball is uncatchable when it lands in play and the intended receiver isn't allowed to cleanly make the cut toward the ball.

It wasn't even close to catchable.