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ESPN predict a 120.9m cap next season.
Jason at NY Jets cap has the Patriots $9,376,940 under the cap to roll forwards to next season.
He also has the Patriots currently at 99.1m for next season currently

= $31,176,940 free.

ATippett56

I have read the salary cap for the 2013 NFL Season will be $121.1 million so there is a minor difference.

That number is incorrect compared to the NFLPA salary cap calculations for the 2012 NFL Season.

Current cap space, NFLPA version | ProFootballTalk

You also forgot to add the $4 million plus dollars in dead money cap hits.

New England Patriots Salary Cap 2013

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When healthy he's arguably a top 5 RT. I love the guy and love his game. I hope he's stays healthy and plays for us for a long time. Thanks for the great effort Sebastian and keep it up!!

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Yah!
Herr Vollmer ist sehr gut and sehr gross!
Aber er ist immer kranken
Ich mag Herr Vollmer
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-Anderson banked a very nice contract based primarily on his strong 2011 second half.....much like TBC after his Patriot return.... My point using Anderson and now TBC....it only takes flashes to get paid when the timing is right. Vollmer has a much stronger history....all pro in 2010/high regards so far in 2012/8 game starter so far this year. Vollmer is legit....far from being just a flash.

-I found an article stating, as of Feb 2012, that the average contract for a starting RT in the NFL was $5.1 mill. This number includes any starting RT on a rookie contract that suppresses the average. With Vollmer being labelled as one of if not the best RT in the NFL, he will certainly earn substantially more than league average. Whether a team values him as a LT, we'll see, but he should be able to demand the highest RT coin. When the best at any position hits the market, they get paid.

-As far as reaching the 89% salary floor starting in 2013, no doubt that will never be an issue in NE. But it will alter the spending habits of many teams. Imagine being an owner with a horrendous, talentless roster....and still be required to pay up to the minimum....approx $110 mill that gets you a couple of wins. Good players will make big bucks from bad teams.

-Vollmer will have earned $3.1 mill over the 4 years of his rookie contract. $4+mill/year less than his RT position average. Will he take a hometown discount to stay in NE? Brady no longer takes one for the team. Neither did Mankins nor Welker....yet they all got top 5 money after pressing management. This is Vollmers chance to cash in. If you had a gimpy back that could shut you down for the rest of your career, wouldn't you try to maximize possibly your only opportunity to hit it big?

-With the early signings of Gronk and AHern, one has to wonder why SeaBass hasn't seen similar love. It could be as simple as injury fear.....or it could be due to a player/agent with much higher expectations than NE. This should get interesting....and I have to believe the futures of Vollmer and Welker are somehow linked. Time will tell

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robertweathers

Completely agree. if SB stays healthy he is in line for good payday.

The most recent big RT signing was Eric Winston for 4/$22m w $8.4m signing bonus. If Vollmer stays healthy the rest of the year, he has every chance of making that here or somewhere else.

Even the bad/small market teams are profitable- thus the reason why they are required to pay up to 89% floor.

He shouldn't take a home town discount. He should go after every penny. But he can't expect to get LT money playing RT for the Pats. If he wants LT money then he won't be here.


He hasn't been healthy. He was a 2nd team ProBowler. Hes a solid player. The team loves him. They want him here- for the right contract of course.

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Don't get yourself in a an uproar Borgy, Sea Bass will be paid....and very well next season, and most likely by the Pats. I wouldn't be surprised if it gets done quickly like we saw with the Gronk and Herandez signings before he hits FA. Personally I'd look for something in the 4-6 year range in the 6-8MM/yr range with lots of injury protections for the Pats long term and about $8MM up front

If you are right and he's "only" made $3.1MM in total to date for 4 years, an $8MM one time payout would look awfully good Plus $6+/yr in new cash annually. I think the key deal is Brady's. Once his deal is worked out then, Volmer, Welker, etc will resolve themselves quickly one way or the other. But quite frankly if the choice is between Vomer and Welker, one or the other, then there is no choice. You'd HAVE to go with Volmer. Hopefully it won't come to that,

mayoclinic

I'm with you, Ken. I'm pretty sure Seabass will great paid, and probably more than RT money, assuming that his back holds up. If there are ongoing health questions that's another matter altogether, but he's playing at a Pro Bowl level again this season. That would make 2 Pro Bowl/All Pro seasons out of 4, plus the swing tackle versatility. He and Solder are one of the best young pair of bookend tackles in the league, and I don't think the Pats would let that go to waste. I'm also guessing that they would probably structure a long term deal in 2 parts, with an option clause to protect them in case he wears down over time, as well as with the injury issues that you discussed. If it were a 6 year deal, I'd expect something like a 3+3 or 4+2 kind of structure with an option bonus that would kick in if he continues to play at a high level.

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He held his own when called upon last season and was a very good player in college. But sure, let's dismiss that based on 40 preseason snaps in which the entire OL looked like dog****, including Solder who's having a Pro-Bowl type season.

jason423

On the 89% floor- remember that the league breaks it up into 4 year buckets not year by year spending. If teams don't see players worth paying in 2013 they won't screw up their cap. Better to waits until 2015 or 2016 and front load deals with bonus money. Remember all bonuses are cash payments in that year even if the cap doesn't account for it that way. The financial penalties are also not killer for failing to comply. Whatever the shortfall the team pays to the players under contract those years. It's probably better to pay older guys than screw your cap by overpaying a Mario Williams or pierre garçon just to reach the threshold.

I'm not really sure on the pats cap number as that pft number threw me for a loop. There may be some behind the scenes moves going on such as a grievance by a player but it may also just be the database. The day of the report was around a flurry of activity by the patriots. Sometimes they fail to take players off rosters until they clear waivers. In theory they could have had a 56 or 57 man roster that day. That is what happened with the bills earlier in the year when pft was way off based on the numbers they received. I'll try to get it worked out at some point.

My guess is Vollmer will get an incentive laden deal. They will tie the salary into games active as well as if he plays left or right tackle with salaries escalating if he plays the left side. That said I do think left tackle salaries will begin to drop soon. With teams featuring so many rushers the blindside has become less important. It's. Ether to invest in both sides than just the left.

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