Off The Grid

Off The Grid Goes Dien Bien Phu, Chapter #847

The idiocy of continuing to insist that it was a choice between jettisoning Seymour or Wilfork ~ or Mankins ~ astonishes me.

Had my advice been taken then ~ rather than one long year later ~ we could've jettisoned Randy Moss and'is bloated contract...and gotten one HELL of a lot more than a 3rd Rounder for'm.

And we could've kept all of those guys...

NOT that it pleases me to be in Accord with Deuce Awry, you understand...

HELL...

If I'D been running the Books, we would've Tagged & Traded Moss IMMEDIATELY after'is 23 TouchDown 2007 Season...and probably gotten CONSECUTIVE 1st Rounders out'f'm...maybe from the SKINS.

But I digress...

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ATippett56

HELL!

I'd like to jettison Steven Gregory and his contract, no matter how inconsequential the salary cap hit.

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supafly

Tip--

So far this year, you want to jettison Donald Thomas, Ryan Wendell, Marcus Cannon, Sterling Moore, Steve Gregory, at least ONE of Vereen/Woodhead, and probably many more that I can't think of.

I am in agreement with you with some of them, at least the fact that they should not be starting...but if you ran the team we'd only have about 30 guys on it

All of those guys will have roles here in some form or another, whether that is starting, providing rotational reps, or just providing depth for injuries and practice reps during the week.

You so often bring up the salary cap....think about it.

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DarrylS

Always thought the there were behind the scenes mitigating circumstances that caused Seymour to leave(Malloy also), perhaps having grown up in paranoid times dictates my skepticism.

Some day when Bill writes the trilogy of what happened here, we may begin to know the whole story, but until then we wait for all of this to unfold..

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convertedpatsfan

It was forgotten because it was Felger who made the claim, and then he went back against it.

Felger: Wilfork Was Talked About with Raiders first

Felger says Wilfork was offered to Raiders [Archive] - KFFL Community

Both of these threads started with the Patriots offering Wilfork to the Raiders, then both threads mention a reversal from Felger who said maybe it was the Raiders who inquired.

In the first link, a poster heard Lombardi's version saying the Raiders asked about Wilfork which coincides with Felger's reversal.

No one can be really certain what is said behind closed doors. But I wouldn't consider Felger much of a source. Might as well start quoting your uncle Bob who watches football on Thanksgiving as a reliable source.

PATSYLICIOUS

This was a rumor, I remember reading about it too. To my knowledge it was never proven as fact, unless you have a legit trusted source with a link.

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patsfan-1982

i was never happy about the trade at the time they did trade a all pro DT in he's prime for a pick in two years but in the long run it worked out for the pats and they learned from mistakes by signing Gronk and hernandez long term befor the price for TE's goes to high,


when Seymour wanted a new contract the price was only about 9 or 10 million per when they trade it him the price was 12 to 14 million per

Armchair Quarterback

Rather than an either/or with Wilfork and Seymour, with the benefit of hindsight, the miscalculation was tying up Warren over Seymour. Talk about being invisible after signing a contract. The quality of his play went downhill soon after he signed along with his health and seemingly, his commitment.

patsfan13

As Solder develops he seems to have the tools to be able to handle speed rushers. If (when) he can handle them 1 on 1 without help that is a huge bonus for the offense.

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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."

patsfan13

Yeah I seriously doubt that the Pats offered Wilfolk before Big Sey.

A guy who can Play NT at the Elite level as well as play DT at and Elite level is harder to find than a player who can play at the Elite level at the DT/DE position.

When you add in the age factor of the 2 Wilfolk was much more valuable to the Pats at that point in time.

Getting the prime of Big Sey's career then flipping that for a guy with the potential to be you LT for 10 years is a great deal for the Pats.

No need to knock Seymour, he was great while he was here and probably his first couple of years in Oakland, but the move was the right one for the Pats.

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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."