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Old 09-24-2012, 09:32 AM   #31
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I'll skip the ref stuff that's been covered.

McCorty dropped two interceptions. Smith made a nice play on one of them but he had both firmly in his hands and dropped. He was flat out awful even omitting the Smith push off.

Arrington falls down missing a chance for a game over interception. He got torched deep and had some legit penalties.

Josh McDaniels:

Turned Gronk into Daniel Graham with a 2/21 performance. I'm sorry I don't care what the Ravens were doing you need to get this guy involved so the defense has another playmaker to account for.

He runs Danny Woodhead 15/34. WTF? He was 6/20 game one and 8/18 game two. He had one reception for 9 yards so it's not like he was lighting them up there. He's a marginal pass blocker. Ridley's numbers were that much better but he was also in there in rushing sets where the Ravens were keying on the run. Maybe give him some draws and he breaks one.

Besides the reverse which killed a drive some of the other play calling just didn't make sense. The play calls down by the goal line where they settled for FGs and that last drive where they would have killed the clock were so frustrating.

The offense again with a chance to kill the clock could not do so. They cannot run when the other team knows they will.

The D-Line got zero pressure against Flacco.

The linebackers did not honor their gaps and were getting sealed again and again. Mayo and Hightower both filled the wrong hole many times.

503 total yards for the Ravens. This defense finally played an offense that can both run and pass and they failed the test. I think they'll continue to improve but epic fail. Yes the refs prolonged drives but still.
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:35 AM   #32
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Mid way last year Devin was not playing CB i am sure you KNOW that, there was a reason ie...Plays or lack their of like last night. BB have made mistakes before...mark it down the McCourty experiment at CB will be over soon enough we have more CB's with guts on this Team and Devin is not one of them. There was a reason why our pass Defense was ranked DEAD LAST last year. Rob, Devin is simple not that goood last night is not a abberration...but the norm in reference to him.
So you think Belichick will bench his best CB because the experiment is over?

Sorry, I don't know what game you were watching, but Arrington was getting picked on a lot and getting burnt a lot and a heck of a lot more than McCourty. If McCourty sucked last night, Arrington was an unmitigated disaster. Arrington has struggled the last two games and McCourty has mostly been good with some bad plays last night.

Based on how they are playing this year, if Belichick benches McCourty for Arrington and Dowling, I would suspect that he is tanking the season to get Matt Barkley to replace Brady. McCourty is worlds better than either Arrington or Dowling this year.

And last year was last year. Arrington was decent last year and McCourty struggled. Not this year though.
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Great football game to watch, except for all the breaks for phantom and real penalties after the refs lost control in the early going.

The statistic that jumped out of the box score to me was the Patriots did not hit the QB once nor did they record a sack. The Ravens' use of Rice was excellent, offensive line did a great job and Flacco was decisive.
The Pats didn't record a sack because the one they did get was over-turned was when Spikes was called for a hold even though PITTA was the one holding Spikes jersey..

Also, Harewood was holding Wilfork or Love all game and it went uncalled.. Oher was doing the same thing with Jones. Ninkovich was actually getting doubled quite a bit.. The RT would hold him and then either the TE, RB or FB would chip him as well..
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Arrington was decent last year and McCourty struggled. Not this year though.
Not this year what? McCourty's not struggling? And I'd still put Arrington in the "decent" category, in as far he's playing about as well as you'd expect him to (the interception total last year was fluky). McCourty is a constant target.
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So you think Belichick will bench his best CB because the experiment is over?

Sorry, I don't know what game you were watching, but Arrington was getting picked on a lot and getting burnt a lot and a heck of a lot more than McCourty. If McCourty sucked last night, Arrington was an unmitigated disaster. Arrington has struggled the last two games and McCourty has mostly been good with some bad plays last night.

Based on how they are playing this year, if Belichick benches McCourty for Arrington and Dowling, I would suspect that he is tanking the season to get Matt Barkley to replace Brady. McCourty is worlds better than either Arrington or Dowling this year.

And last year was last year. Arrington was decent last year and McCourty struggled. Not this year though.

Arrington would have caught those two balls that hit "McStonehands" right in the mitts the QB couldn't have thrown them any better. McCourty was making Ravens WR's look like Megatron and Andre Johnson last night. The 2011 McCourty showed up last night and that's not good. There is no upside to McCourty game what we are seeing is what we are going to get. Thank goodnees BB kept quite a few. Put me in the anybody but McCourty fan club he now reminds of Laurence Maroney my most HATED Patriot player.
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Three thoughts:

1) The sky isn't falling, as the Patriots played pretty well for most of last night on both sides of the ball. If we're looking for a competitive team that will be in the hunt for the Division Title until late December, we have it in what we saw last night against a team we knew was good and, indeed, last week against an opponent that was much better than heralded.

2) But executing on "every drive but the last two" (on both sides of the ball) isn't going to win the Conference, let alone the Super Bowl. They have to start winning close games again to do that.

On their last two drives last night, the Pats moved the ball a total of 51 yards (20 on Baltimore Penalties!) and took just 4:32 off the clock; on their last drive, TB was one for four for 11 yards plus a sack.

On their last two drives, the Ravens moved the ball 126 yards (including a net 17 yards from penalties, 27 on McCourty, which was clearly a penalty, net of 10 for Offensive Holding).

3) If we're going to blame the Replacement officiating, it's going to be a long, long season. Every team is dealing with it and last night's officiating was far from yesterday's worst from that perspective.

Or, as Tom Brady put it after the game: "We just don't play well when we need to...Certainly, we've got to play our best when it means the most, and we need to start winning close games."
Sorry, but you are 100% wrong on the call on McCourty. He never touched Smith. No way it should have been called. Even Chris Collinsworth said that he couldn't see McCourty touch Smith during the entire play.

Yesterday's game was, by far, the worst officiated game this season. BAR NONE. And it was the worst officiated game since the Steelers/Seahawks SB a few years back..
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No McCourty drinking kool aid for me Rob...he stone single handedly cost the N.E. Patriots the game last night. That's exactly how he played last year a completion waithing to happen...he is terrible and will be BENCHED soon enough. Peyton Manning will be licking his chops playing catch with him. Mark it down Devin in DONE!
WOW. You clearly didn't watch the game last night. McCourty didn't cost the Pats the game singlehandedly. That is your uneducated bias talking.

I can point to numerous other plays that had more effect on the game. Including the Pats poor playcalling on the last drive and the poor clock management with under 2 minutes to play.
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On the contrary, I'm certain that there is a lot more pro wrestling to the NFL than some think. The NFL is a product there to make money. They run the league in whatever way will generate the most profit and attention. All of these ironic or "magical" storylines that occur every season don't just happen. The NFL puts quite a bit into designing the story lines and creating scenarios that will play out like a novel.

A lot of the play on the field is still legitimate, but other factors that go into it from the league side, including the officiating, are definitely discussed and designed before any of the players step onto the field.

I think as more people realize that there is quite a bit of story line choreography going on, the NFL will have to ease up on it a bit to not turn fans off to the "game."
Another post from you and another conspiracy theory that is laughable. I'll do myself the favor of blocking your garbage from now on.
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WOW. You clearly didn't watch the game last night. McCourty didn't cost the Pats the game singlehandedly. That is your uneducated bias talking.

I can point to numerous other plays that had more effect on the game. Including the Pats poor playcalling on the last drive and the poor clock management with under 2 minutes to play.
When he's benched in the upcoming weeks i'll get back to you.

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So you think Belichick will bench his best CB because the experiment is over?

Sorry, I don't know what game you were watching, but Arrington was getting picked on a lot and getting burnt a lot and a heck of a lot more than McCourty. If McCourty sucked last night, Arrington was an unmitigated disaster. Arrington has struggled the last two games and McCourty has mostly been good with some bad plays last night.

Based on how they are playing this year, if Belichick benches McCourty for Arrington and Dowling, I would suspect that he is tanking the season to get Matt Barkley to replace Brady. McCourty is worlds better than either Arrington or Dowling this year.

And last year was last year. Arrington was decent last year and McCourty struggled. Not this year though.
I'm too lazy to directly quote PatsFan2, but after reading multiple pointless comments from the poster, it is clear that he or she is a troll.

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