Shane Vereen back at practice; Dan Connolly only player absent - Page 8 - New England Patriots Forums

***AndyJohnson*** · 09-15-2012, 04:27 PM

[QUOTE=Armchair Quarterback;3146882]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armchair Quarterback

Great, so why are you directing this his college play.

That whole thing was a typo, I was trying to say many are basing their opinion of his skillset on his college play.

Quote:

And you responded to me first, post #43 responding to post #42.

correct

Quote:

Yes it is, to quote you, "It seems silly to act as if you can confidently guess what the coaching staff's assessment is."

correct, we have no clue of that, which is why my point is that how what he has done to date affects what he will do going forward is dubious at best, at least the part we would be aware of

Quote:

Injuries are supposed to be temporary. If the reason why he barely saw the field last year was his hamstring as some people want to insist and not because of his play than he missed all that time last year, as well as last week and is questionable for this week. Doesn't sound temporary to me.

Do you think his foot injury that he has overcome to some degree, is permanent?

Quote:

However I have never put in words that I question his manliness nor have I called him any names. That is a figment of your imagination.

You did so by questioning why he was out with an injury and Mankins and Welker were not. Clearly it was because his injury held him back more. You seemed to imply it was a flaw in his makeup.

Quote:

The closest I came was to "like" a certain post in which the poster made a stupid juvenile joke about Vereen's anatomy and I just happen to appreciate stupid juvenile humor. The Brady comment is a very poor straw-man argument.

The Brady comment is nothing like a strawman. It is an analogy. A hamstring injury to a RB makes him less effective, and can keep him sideline no matter how much he would like to play, just as a throwing hand injury would to a QB.

Quote:

Again, so why do you feel the need to take me to task for it? Most of what is discussed on this board is nothing but meaningless guesses, Do you feel the need to challenge all of them? You don't have to answer that, I think we know the answer.

Not taking you to task at all, just offering my opinion.
Many topics of discussion have facts and history to back them up. "Not having seen' something from a player who has not had an opportunity is a pointless argument IMO.
I have no problem with you feeling that way, but I'm just pointing out it is not an informed opinion.

Dingleberry · 09-15-2012, 04:56 PM

1. I am looking forward to Vereen finally getting healthy. He has the potential to be dynamic. Should be fun to watch. Between him and Dowling, I have such high hopes for them.

2. I have seen childbirth enough to know that women are tougher than men.

3. "Twat" is such a funny word. Not sure why, but it makes me laugh. All I know is I am such a twat for not wating to go through childbirth.

Armchair Quarterback · 09-15-2012, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyJohnson

That whole thing was a typo, I was trying to say many are basing their opinion of his skillset on his college play.

correct

correct, we have no clue of that, which is why my point is that how what he has done to date affects what he will do going forward is dubious at best, at least the part we would be aware of

Do you think his foot injury that he has overcome to some degree, is permanent?

You did so by questioning why he was out with an injury and Mankins and Welker were not. Clearly it was because his injury held him back more. You seemed to imply it was a flaw in his makeup.

The Brady comment is nothing like a strawman. It is an analogy. A hamstring injury to a RB makes him less effective, and can keep him sideline no matter how much he would like to play, just as a throwing hand injury would to a QB.

Not taking you to task at all, just offering my opinion.
Many topics of discussion have facts and history to back them up. "Not having seen' something from a player who has not had an opportunity is a pointless argument IMO.
I have no problem with you feeling that way, but I'm just pointing out it is not an informed opinion.

I'm all Vereen'ed out for now. None of us really knows for sure how good or bad he'll look if and when he ever gets into a game, I'll give you that.

I'm going to move on from this topic, or at least I will until another dozen posters come in here and write what an explosive and dynamic runner he is. Then I might have something to say about it.