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WinstonSmith · 09-12-2012, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Gwedd

I loved that play, and the Pats sideline was giving Ghost some major props after that one. Ghost, though, was also likely cautioned NOT to do that too often, I suspect.

It brought back memories of Vinatieri tracking down and putting the hurt on Herschel Walker. Walker never completely recovered from the shame.

smg93 · 09-12-2012, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by livinginthe past

1. How often was Chandler Jones double teamed.

I would say between 20% and 25% of the time.

A few other points I noticed:

On the Washington TD, Chandler Jones actually had Locker by the waist and legs as he was throwing the ball. It seemed like Gregory could have been gambling on a possible floater type pass that he could intercept. Instead Locker actually made quite a throw with Jones all over him and him not being able to stride forward as he was making the pass.

On the runs that were for minus yardage, it seemed like a majority of those came on sweep type plays to the left or right. Not that it was all bad, because Ridley had some big gains on plays like that too when he was able make aggressive cut backs. The north south type running plays on the whole however looked real good. If there were any minus yard runs on those types of plays, there must have been few because I don't recall seeing one.

On Pass plays, seems like much of the credit for being sacked just once was the fact that Brady got rid of the ball very quickly. On plays that needed to develop (say greater than 3+ seconds), that pocket did collapse very fast. On those plays it was fairly clear that Brady would not have had the chance to take that step forward before a pass because there were people all around him. So that's a bit of a concern there and needs to be worked on.

livinginthe past · 09-13-2012, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by smg93

I would say between 20% and 25% of the time.

A few other points I noticed:

On the Washington TD, Chandler Jones actually had Locker by the waist and legs as he was throwing the ball. It seemed like Gregory could have been gambling on a possible floater type pass that he could intercept. Instead Locker actually made quite a throw with Jones all over him and him not being able to stride forward as he was making the pass.

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Originally Posted by livinginthe past

On the Locker TD, I think Gregory gambled on an INT - he seen Locker about to be engulfed, and like most of us, thought there was a good chance a wounded duck might be on the way.

As it was it was a great throw under duress by Locker.

Great minds think alike

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Gumby · 09-13-2012, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by smg93

I would say between 20% and 25% of the time.

A few other points I noticed:

.....On the runs that were for minus yardage, it seemed like a majority of those came on sweep type plays to the left or right. Not that it was all bad, because Ridley had some big gains on plays like that too when he was able make aggressive cut backs. The north south type running plays on the whole however looked real good. If there were any minus yard runs on those types of plays, there must have been few because I don't recall seeing one.

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hmmmm.

one of the articles linked on the front page (john morgan ) stated the exact opposite. That the no yardage plays were run up through the line and the blocking was the problem. he said all the positive plays were on sweeps (or at least when following a TE).

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The Pats do indeed have a running game. Stevan Ridley showed a lot of burst and decisiveness. But let’s pump the brakes just a bit here. Ridley was quite effective running outside, following his tight end’s lead – but he and the other backs got absolutely nowhere when running between the tackles. On those plays it seemed as if it was at most a gain of one or two yards. The issue did not appear to be Ridley, but the members of the offensive line; on interior runs they continually failed to seal their defenders, leaving the running back with no lane to run through and no place to cut back to.

smg93 · 09-13-2012, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Gumby

hmmmm.

one of the articles linked on the front page (john morgan ) stated the exact opposite. That the no yardage plays were run up through the line and the blocking was the problem. he said all the positive plays were on sweeps (or at least when following a TE).

I would say it was more like the north south plays didn't have any minus yard type plays but didn't have lots of big ones either. The "sweep" type plays had big gains but also 3 or 4 yard losses in there.

In effect, you had consistent but not spectacular runs on north south and you had more of a feast or famine in runs to the left or right.

Apologies incidentally for the lack of football terminology. I'm not very well versed in that language unfortunately.