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Old 08-15-2012, 12:41 PM   #1
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New England Patriots' running back Shane Vereen is healthy and ready to contribute - ESPN Boston

Some interesting comments from BB on Vereen's game performance vs. practices (where the reports have been less than scintillating):

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"It's always kind of hard to gauge a running back in practice because we're not doing full-speed tackling," Belichick said. "The last time he got an opportunity to run like that was probably in the Kansas City game [Nov. 21], when he had some of those same kind of looking plays. That's the good thing about the preseason games -- you get a chance to evaluate skill players. Can you tackle them? You can simulate more of the line contact in practice, but the tackling of the skill players and them being able to not get tackled or get tackled, it's a better picture in the game. He did a good job."
"He did a good job" is practically gushing praise from BB. Nick Caserio also noted:

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"The offense that they run at Cal is a pretty complex system," said Patriots director of player personnel Nick Caserio. "They ask a lot of their skill people to do a lot of different things, so Shane had been exposed to a number of different things. We felt that he was a good fit for what we were doing."
Despite getting reps behind Ridley in practice, Vereen has clearly been the best receiver out of the backfield all training camp. He opens up another dimension, and the combination of both players stepping up would be a terrific addition to the offense. Vereen talks pretty open about not being prepared to make the leap to being a professional last year, and how the offseason benefitted him. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
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"He did a good job" is practically gushing praise from BB. Nick Caserio also noted:

Despite getting reps behind Ridley in practice, Vereen has clearly been the best receiver out of the backfield all training camp. He opens up another dimension, and the combination of both players stepping up would be a terrific addition to the offense. Vereen talks pretty open about not being prepared to make the leap to being a professional last year, and how the offseason benefitted him. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
He was having some rough practices in camp, the day I was there was not a good one. So I'm very pleased to see things going in the other direction.

I think what Belichick said about live reps and running backs is very telling. A few good preseason outings will earn Vereen more reps in practice, then maybe reps with the 1s. Which might get him some reps with the 1s early regular season games.

I like them both and I love that they bring some different things to the table. I like the competition and seeing each guy have to earn it.

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New England Patriots' running back Shane Vereen is healthy and ready to contribute - ESPN Boston

Some interesting comments from BB on Vereen's game performance vs. practices (where the reports have been less than scintillating):



"He did a good job" is practically gushing praise from BB. Nick Caserio also noted:



Despite getting reps behind Ridley in practice, Vereen has clearly been the best receiver out of the backfield all training camp. He opens up another dimension, and the combination of both players stepping up would be a terrific addition to the offense. Vereen talks pretty open about not being prepared to make the leap to being a professional last year, and how the offseason benefitted him. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
I would love to seee this kid return kicks and take possession of the third down back position. Nothing against Woodhead, but Vereen possesses a dynamic change of direction and quick burst that no other back on the Patriots roster has.
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I would love to seee this kid return kicks and take possession of the third down back position. Nothing against Woodhead, but Vereen possesses a dynamic change of direction and quick burst that no other back on the Patriots roster has.
I agree. He also has the added bulk and strength which makes him a more versatile threat. I like having Woodhead on the team, but ideally Vereen wins that role.
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It'd be great if Brady had a dump off/screen RB in the mold of Sproles like Brees does.
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It'd be great if Brady had a dump off/screen RB in the mold of Sproles like Brees does.
You mean like Danny Woodhead was in 2010?
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You mean like Danny Woodhead was in 2010?
Danny Woodhead in 2010 = 34 rec, 379 yds, 1 rec TD

Darren Sproles in 2011 = 86 rec, 710 yds, 7 rec TDs

Not to mention a pretty vast difference in rushing numbers too.

So I don't think you can make that comparison, honestly.
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Danny Woodhead in 2010 = 34 rec, 379 yds, 1 rec TD

Darren Sproles in 2011 = 86 rec, 710 yds, 7 rec TDs

Not to mention a pretty vast difference in rushing numbers too.

So I don't think you can make that comparison, honestly.
Woodhead that year was the closest thing we've had to a receiving threat out of the backfield since Faulk in 2008. It wasn't a direct comparison between the two players on my part.
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New England Patriots' running back Shane Vereen is healthy and ready to contribute - ESPN Boston

Some interesting comments from BB on Vereen's game performance vs. practices (where the reports have been less than scintillating):



"He did a good job" is practically gushing praise from BB. Nick Caserio also noted:



Despite getting reps behind Ridley in practice, Vereen has clearly been the best receiver out of the backfield all training camp. He opens up another dimension, and the combination of both players stepping up would be a terrific addition to the offense. Vereen talks pretty open about not being prepared to make the leap to being a professional last year, and how the offseason benefitted him. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Once you weight for the blowhard/hype factor, Belichick saying "he did a good job" is roughly equivalent to Rex Ryan saying "he is indestructible, untackleable, and can leap tall buildings in a single bound".
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You mean like Danny Woodhead was in 2010?
I'd settle for adding that back into our repertoire of offensive plays that we use stratgically. It seems we are highly successful when we do, but maybe it was because the short routes have generally been clogged in the recent past?
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