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I would love to seee this kid return kicks and take possession of the third down back position. Nothing against Woodhead, but Vereen possesses a dynamic change of direction and quick burst that no other back on the Patriots roster has.
Agreed; no offense to Woodhead, who is a good player, but the less we see of him on the field, the better IMO. If Vereen can take all of his non-ST snaps, I'll be extremely pleased.
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Danny Woodhead in 2010 = 34 rec, 379 yds, 1 rec TD
Darren Sproles in 2011 = 86 rec, 710 yds, 7 rec TDs
Not to mention a pretty vast difference in rushing numbers too.
So I don't think you can make that comparison, honestly.
And yet, before Sproles hit NO, Woodhead's 2010 season was one of the best any "change of pack back" had put up in this league. Compare to Sproles at a comparable point in their careers. (You said "in the mold of Sproles," not "equivalent to Sproles' career best, historically off-the-charts season," after all!)
I think I have mentioned it in a few other threads but I am not sure how anyone other than the proffessionals with the help of tape can truly come up with any assesment of a RB in camp?
IMO in camp a successful run is almost entirely on the O-Line while a bad run could be the fault of either the OL or RB or even a good play by the D. There is just too much space without tackling for me without the help of Film to really say the RB did anything good other then not screwing it up.
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Agreed; no offense to Woodhead, who is a good player, but the less we see of him on the field, the better IMO. If Vereen can take all of his non-ST snaps, I'll be extremely pleased.
So he's a good player but the less we see of him the better? I don't know what kind of logic that is.
Woodhead has had success in the NFL over a couple of seasons, Vereen has basically one set of downs in garbage time on his resume.
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And yet, before Sproles hit NO, Woodhead's 2010 season was one of the best any "change of pack back" had put up in this league. Compare to Sproles at a comparable point in their careers. (You said "in the mold of Sproles," not "equivalent to Sproles' career best, historically off-the-charts season," after all!)
Well, technically I didn't say either, as I wasn't the original Sproles commentator
But your point is well taken. I think I was thinking of Sproles more as a consistent receiving threat out of the backfield, and not specifically as a change of pace back. In that mold, plenty of backs have have big receiving seasons (Bush, Tomlinson, Westbrook, etc).
So he's a good player but the less we see of him the better? I don't know what kind of logic that is.
Woodhead has had success in the NFL over a couple of seasons, Vereen has basically one set of downs in garbage time on his resume.
It's pretty simple, really. If we don't see much of Woodhead on the field, it will be because Vereen has lived up to his potential to the point that he's a better option. Which would be good because, as much as I like Woodhead, he's a fundamentally limited player, starting with the fact that he goes down on contact.
Well, technically I didn't say either, as I wasn't the original Sproles commentator
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But your point is well taken. I think I was thinking of Sproles more as a consistent receiving threat out of the backfield, and not specifically as a change of pace back. In that mold, plenty of backs have have big receiving seasons (Bush, Tomlinson, Westbrook, etc).
And that's why I think Woodhead's 2010 season deserves more respect than it usually gets. Granted, he wasn't a full-time feature back, but his receiving average that year was better than Bush, Tomlinson or Westbrook ever put up for any season in their careers.
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