Originally Posted by ScottieC
Tyree does not catch a ball on his helmet and Wes catches that one ball with 4 min to go and your entire argument is trashed.
I'm sure you liked the previous 3 wins in the SB because they were blow out wins and support your argument.........wait..
It's always worth a laugh when people go on about the offense, while forgetting several things along the way:
1.) The defense was in decline post 2004, and has just bottomed out in the last 1-2 years (hopefully)
2.) 2001 was one "tuck rule" call away from never happening. Why is this significant? 2006 was ended by, among other reasons, a PI call that didn't even exist in the league (face guarding), 2007 was ended by, among other things, a play in which several blatant holds weren't called and an in-the-grasp was not called, and 2011 was lost, in part, because a safety was called on a play that's almost never whistled as a safety. In other words, in close games, a call/non-call on a close play can be the difference.
3.) 2007 had a hobbled Brady, injured Neal (replaced by an injured Hochstein), injured/depleted TE corps, injured Faulk, all of which were recent developments. Had those players been healthy and their Giants counterparts been injured, that game would have been about 45-3 Patriots.
4.) If Welker catches the ball, the Patriots win in 2011
5.) The Giants had multiple fumbles in 2011. If even one of those is recovered by the Patriots, the Patriots probably win the game. Which leads to...
6.) A too many men on the field penalty, by the defense, was another huge play in the 2011 loss.
7.) In 2007, if Meriweather holds on to the INT, the Patriots win.
8. ) In 2007, if Meriweather stays with his man, Manning probably never makes the throw to Tyree.
9.) In 2001, Brady was knocked out of a playoff game, while playing in the "protect the QB from all harm and mistakes" offense they were running that year. If Bledsoe doesn't get that early score against Pittsburgh, or the team doesn't get 2 special teams scores, there is no 2001 SB win.
10.) Again, 2001: David Patten is knocked unconscious and fumbles the ball, but is ruled out of bounds and the ball stays with the Patriots. If that ball is given the the Bills, the Patriots might well have lost that (OT) game and would then have finished at 10-6 instead of 11-5, meaning that they'd have lost the division and would have gone to tiebreakers for a wild card spot. It would have changed how that year shook out.
At this point, after all we've seen since 2001, blaming the SB drought on the changes in the passing game is just a poor attempt at scapegoating. I'd love to see the team with a more potent running attack, but it's not the passing game which is causing the issues year after year.