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Old 06-13-2012, 09:13 PM   #31
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What's up with all the "leg" injuries? They must be playing on turf...maybe some of the bad old green asphalt...
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Old 06-13-2012, 09:26 PM   #32
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Wow, they both said nice things about...Britt Davis.

Reminds me of last year and the year before when I thought Darnell Jenkins went crazy in the preseason but got cut both times.
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Here are my observations:

Its NO pads, NO contact, and NOT competitive. Its NOT football. As BB has said over and over this is a TEACHING time. This is when they install most of the offense and defense. Trying to judge how a player is doing under these conditions is ludicrous. Perhaps the MOST ludicrous is assigning sacks to defensive players in a NO CONTACT drill. Unbelievable, almost Jet-like

This is NOT football folks, its just part of the process leading up to the 6 weeks of TC, where all the competition and real judgments will be made. What have have now with these reports, are nothing but reporters needing to justify their paychecks, and for the fans like myself who read every word, because I know there will be little else to talk about for the next 6 weeks. so even these phony baloney "assessments" are better than the nothing I have to look forward to.
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And yet Ocho managed to get cut...among others.

Coaches glean a lot from these supposedly non competitive practices... They assess a players ability to grasp and retain instruction on a day to day basis. They gauge a second or third year player's capacity to develop and a veteran player's ability to maintain a level of consistency.

Increasingly practices will be non contact, no pads - welcome to the CBA of 2011 - but it would be foolish to label them non competitive because they will constitute the basis of building the 53 man roster and PS. For the most part jobs aren't won or lost in OTA's, but this is where the contenders begin to be sorted out and identified or classified in anticipation of TC.

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Here are my observations:

Its NO pads, NO contact, and NOT competitive. Its NOT football. As BB has said over and over this is a TEACHING time. This is when they install most of the offense and defense. Trying to judge how a player is doing under these conditions is ludicrous. Perhaps the MOST ludicrous is assigning sacks to defensive players in a NO CONTACT drill. Unbelievable, almost Jet-like

This is NOT football folks, its just part of the process leading up to the 6 weeks of TC, where all the competition and real judgments will be made. What have have now with these reports, are nothing but reporters needing to justify their paychecks, and for the fans like myself who read every word, because I know there will be little else to talk about for the next 6 weeks. so even these phony baloney "assessments" are better than the nothing I have to look forward to.
I disagree in just one regard. They are also people. And anytime management, supervisors or any other type of authority interacts with people they have authority over, it is insightful.
With rookies they are learning their attitude, intelligence, football smarts, and ability to learn. With vets new to the team, they are learning the same but to a lesser degree.
With returning players, they all have off-season areas to work on and improve. They are all expected to be here, in shape, focussed and serious. These areas certainly contribute to the opinion the coaches are forming on these players.
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And yet Ocho managed to get cut...among others.

Coaches glean a lot from these supposedly non competitive practices... They assess a players ability to grasp and retain instruction on a day to day basis. They gauge a second or third year player's capacity to develop and a veteran player's ability to maintain a level of consistency.

Increasingly practices will be non contact, no pads - welcome to the CBA of 2011 - but it would be foolish to label them non competitive because they will constitute the basis of building the 53 man roster and PS. For the most part jobs aren't won or lost in OTA's, but this is where the contenders begin to be sorted out and identified or classified in anticipation of TC.

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Brings back fond memories of Charlie Weis colorfully and loudly cussing out Patrick Pass at summer camp in Smithfield RI.
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Wow, they both said nice things about...Britt Davis.

Reminds me of last year and the year before when I thought Darnell Jenkins went crazy in the preseason but got cut both times.


Oddly so did Bill in his presser today. Said he put himself in good position heading into camp. Likes his size.

Then just to shake things up he cancelled the last on field practice just as the media was set to take to the field... Players doing interviews now and have to remain for meetings at 1:15 then OTA's are basically over until TC although the off season conditioning program will continue for another week or two.

Bill also acknowledged that Ballard is here and looks good considering what his procedure entailed (ACL & microfracture) and when surgery was done.

Also said schedule for practice may not work for NO because of their start date, but if not they will explore other opportunities.
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Its NO pads, NO contact, and NOT competitive. Its NOT football. As BB has said over and over this is a TEACHING time. This is when they install most of the offense and defense. Trying to judge how a player is doing under these conditions is ludicrous. Perhaps the MOST ludicrous is assigning sacks to defensive players in a NO CONTACT drill. Unbelievable, almost Jet-like

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