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Old 06-10-2012, 02:43 PM   #181
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Why is every time I read something about this somebody has to worm welker and Hernandez into it??

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Old 06-10-2012, 06:44 PM   #182
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OK, offer the same exact money to Welker as Gronk will receive, year for year for the entire 8 years.

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He doesn't have the security or long term deal his performance deserved.

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He doesn't have the security or long term deal his performance deserved.
That's the problem, highlighted in bold above. One little "d" instead of an "s". You believe that Welker's performance from 2007-2011 deserve[d] a lucrative long term deal. Past performance doesn't count. Welker was paid $17M for those years, and while he outperformed his contract, his contract was considered fairly lucrative at the time. He was offered an extension with 2 additional years at $8M/year fully guaranteed, which is more money for those 2 years than Gronk is getting from his extension, but he turned it down. Just because Welker performed admirably over the past 5 years doesn't necessarily mean that he deserveS the long-term deal that he desires. As Mo has pointed out elsewhere, we don't know what Welker is actually asking for. But whether he "deserves" it or not should be based on current and future performance expectation and market value, not on past performance.
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You don't pay for pas performance, you pay for future performance. Gronk is obviously going to be a major, major player in the next 10 years. And he got money reflecting that (I even dare say the Patriots made out in this deal).

I do think Welker should get a 2-3 year extension, but you have no choice but to think short term with him. Your not going to give Welker a 30 million deal...not at his age and point in his career. The Patriots seem content to pay him 9 million this year, and maybe even next year, but after that, Welker is a huge question mark. The Patriots are in the right for moving cautiously with Welker, and are definately in the right for giving that money to Gronk.

Whether people want to admit it or not...Gronkowski and Hernandez are the Patriots long term future. Welker is not. Locking up Gronk will only ensure we stay relevant for many years to come.
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