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Hey y'all,

This year's Pats Picker application is now available:
Pats Picker 2012

Design and share your ideal roster without having to type out each player's name or mess with spreadsheets.

• Drag and drop players to include them on your team
• Move players into any of their eligible positions
• Your results will save for your next visit
• Create custom players that you think should be included
• Copy and paste your results to the message board or elsewhere

If you like, paste your roster in this thread along with any feedback you have for me.

Give a "like" on the Facebook button to spread the word. I hope you enjoy and I'll continue to work on it!

Big-T

First attempt:

QB (3) Tom Brady, Ryan Mallet, Brian Hoyer
RB (3) Danny Woodhead, Stevan Ridley, Shane Vereen
WR (7) Wes Welker, Brandon Lloyd, Matthew Slater, Julian Edelman, Donte Stallworth, Jabar Gaffney, Jeremy Ebert
TE (3) Rob Gronkowski, Daniel Fells, Aaron Hernandez
C (2) Dan Koppen, Ryan Wendell
G (4) Brian Waters, Logan Mankins, Dan Connolly, Robert Gallery
T (3) Sebastian Vollmer, Nate Solder, Marcus Cannon
DE (4) Brandon Deaderick, Trevor Scott, Jake Bequette, Chandler Jones
DT (5) Vince Wilfork, Jonathan Fanene, Kyle Love, Myron Pryor, Marcus Forston
ILB(4) Jerod Mayo, Brandon Spikes, Donta Hightower, Dane Fletcher
OLB(3) Bobby Carpenter, Rob Ninkovich, Markell Carter
CB (6) Devin McCourty, Sterling Moore, Kyle Arrington, Ras-I Dowling, Alfonzo Dennard, Marquice Cole
SS (1) Steve Gregory
FS (2) Patrick Chung, Tavon Wilson
ST (3) Stephen Gostkowski, Danny Aiken, Zoltan Mesko

Branch to be shadow rostered Brown's ST spot goes to Cole. Also it isn't in depth chart order, just the players who make the cut.

supafly

Nice.

I think I'd respectfully disagree with the following: (not that I could necessarily do a better job )

--lack of Tracy White, although it's certainly a possibility that Carpenter could take over his spot, depending upon his quick pickup of the system and ST play in training camp

--You have Chung lumped in with the FS group, and while we're all aware that (say it with me in unison) "there are no SS/FS groupings in N.England," Chung is definitely closer to a SS. I'd switch up Gregory and Chung.

--No way we're only keeping 3 'real' safeties. Add in Barrett or even Brown, with the possibility of a late season addition.

--Don't see Cole making the CB grouping over Will Allen, but anything's possible.

--Not sure if Carpenter makes it, but if he does, will he be an OLB instead of an ILB? I was leaning more towards ILB myself, but it's getting crowded in there.

--Not expecting Forston to make it at all, change that one to G.Warren.

--No way we're only keeping 3 RB's, at least 4 and probably 5.

--Oddly enough (IMO) they seem to be wanting Gallery as a possible T instead of a G here, which I was surprised at.

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This thing is fun though, and as much as some of the opinions will differ, it's a neat application.

I still think it's waaaayyy too early yet, but maybe I'll give one a try myself, and you can tell me your thoughts.

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Patiently waiting to defend the next "bubble" player in this summer's training camp.....

Big-T

Yeah I went with Carpenter over White, he's a slightly better LB and a good ST'er from what I recall.

I thought that too, but the picker has them that way round and I just forgot to change them like I did with Carter (who was down as an ILB, and will be a DE in the 4-3 probably anyway so OLB is wrong by me )

Yeah there's either going to be another signing, Josh Barrett or one of the corners converted there (maybe Dennard).

Cole is an excellent ST'er and according to some Jets fans a good #4 corner too.

3-4 ILB, 4-3 OLB? It's another that the picker had arranged that way.

I wouldn't be shocked to see Warren on the shadow roster like last season.

That's where it got hard, it was take less RB's or find WR's to cut....glad I don't have to make that call for real (Bolden will probably land on the PS too)

It's a fun thing to do though, I'll probably be having another go as camp goes on and after pre-season games etc.

lovsn

QB (3) Tom Brady, Ryan Mallet, Brian Hoyer
RB (4) Danny Woodhead, Shane Vereen, Spencer Larsen, Stevan Ridley
WR (6) Wes Welker, Jabar Gaffney, Chad Ochocinco, Matthew Slater, Julian Edelman, Brandon Lloyd
TE (3) Rob Gronkowski, Daniel Fells, Aaron Hernandez
C (2) Dan Koppen, Ryan Wendell
G (4) Logan Mankins, Brian Waters, Dan Connolly, Robert Gallery
T (4) Matt Light, Sebastian Vollmer, Marcus Cannon, Nate Solder
DE (5) Brandon Deaderick, Jonathan Fanene, Jake Bequette, Trevor Scott, Chandler Jones
DT (3) Vince Wilfork, Myron Pryor, Kyle Love
ILB(5) Jerod Mayo, Donta Hightower, Dane Fletcher, Tracy White, Brandon Spikes
OLB(2) Bobby Carpenter, Rob Ninkovich
CB (6) Devin McCourty, Kyle Arrington, Alfonzo Dennard, Nate Ebner, Will Allen, Ras-I Dowling
SS (1) Steve Gregory
FS (2) Patrick Chung, Tavon Wilson
ST (3) Zoltan Mesko, Danny Aiken, Stephen Gostkowski

Though I think they'll take another 5-technique (at the expense of Pryor) and another safety (at the expense of Edelman or Ocho)

supafly

My 'early' version as of 5-3-12:

QB--Brady, Hoyer, Mallett (3)
TE--Gronkowski, Hernandez, Fells (3)
RB--Ridley, Vereen, Woodhead, VET (4)
WR--Welker, Llyod, Gaffney, Branch, Johnson, Edelman (6)
C--Koppen, Wendell (2)
G--Connelly, Waters, McDonald (3) MANKINS TO PUP, GALLERY AS SWING
T--Vollmer, Gallery, Solder, Cannon (4)

PUP--Logan Mankins

OFFENSIVE BREAKDOWN: 9 OL, 6 WR, 4 RB, 3 TE, 3 QB = 25

DT--G.Warren, Wilfork, Pryor, Love (4)
DE--Baquette, Jones, Deaderick, Fanene (4)
ILB--Mayo, Spikes, Fletcher, Hightower, Tarpinian (5)
OLB--Ninkovich, Cunningham, Carter (3)
CB--McCourty, Dowling, Dennard, Arrington, Moore, (5)
S--Chung, Gregory, Wilson, Brown (4)

DEFENSIVE BREAKDOWN: 8 DL, 5 ILB, 3 OLB, 9 SECONDARY =25

ST--Punter Mesko, Kicker Gostkowski, + Aiken =3

53 players total

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Now....ST ONLY PLAYERS...Hmm?

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My guess would be that as of now, we have the following as possible ST-only players: Tarpinian, Brown, Edelman.

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Patiently waiting to defend the next "bubble" player in this summer's training camp.....

jsull87

QB (3) Tom Brady, Ryan Mallet, Brian Hoyer
RB (3) Danny Woodhead, Stevan Ridley, Shane Vereen
WR (7) Wes Welker, Brandon Lloyd, Deion Branch, Chad Ochocinco, Julian Edelman, Jabar Gaffney, Matthew Slater
TE (3) Rob Gronkowski, Aaron Hernandez, Daniel Fells
C (1) Dan Koppen
G (5) Logan Mankins, Brian Waters, Dan Connolly, Nick McDonald, Robert Gallery
T (3) Sebastian Vollmer, Nate Solder, Marcus Cannon
DE (6) Jake Bequette, Brandon Deaderick, Jonathan Fanene, Ron Brace, Trevor Scott, Chandler Jones
DT (3) Vince Wilfork, Kyle Love, Myron Pryor
ILB(5) Jerod Mayo, Brandon Spikes, Dane Fletcher, Tracy White, Donta Hightower
OLB(2) Jermaine Cunningham, Rob Ninkovich
CB (6) Ras-I Dowling, Alfonzo Dennard, Kyle Arrington, Will Allen, Sterling Moore, Devin McCourty
SS (1) Steve Gregory
FS (2) Patrick Chung, Tavon Wilson
ST (3) Zoltan Mesko, Danny Aiken, Stephen Gostkowski

Total players: 53

This was mine. i am secretly hoping we trade Hoyer for a pick next year leaving me able to pick up Tracy white or something. I was going to pick Tarpinian but ended up picking white instead. I am hoping Tavon Wilson/Gregory can pick up some of the St duties of the people they replaced, same with Denard. Edleman is basically a pure special teamer and patch work WR/CB now so he better be working on his tackling. I opted to go for Fells over an extra RB as using Hernandez at rb last year proved very dangerous, this also gives us a bit more flexibility and hopefully faulk will be on our shadow roster and the navy kid can be in the practice squad

patsinthesnow

QB (3) Tom Brady, Brian Hoyer, Ryan Mallet
RB (4) Stevan Ridley, Danny Woodhead, Shane Vereen,Tony Fiammetta
WR (5) Wes Welker, Brandon Lloyd, Jabar Gaffney, Donte Stallworth, Deion Branch
TE (3) Rob Gronkowski, Aaron Hernandez, Daniel Fells
C (2) Dan Koppen, Nick McDonald
G (4) Logan Mankins, Brian Waters, Dan Connolly, Robert Gallery
T (3) Nate Solder, Sebastian Vollmer, Marcus Cannon
DE (5) Brandon Deaderick, Jonathan Fanene, Chandler Jones, Jake Bequette
DT (3) Vince Wilfork, Kyle Love, Myron Pryor
ILB(3) Jerod Mayo, Brandon Spikes, Dane Fletcher
OLB(4) Rob Ninkovich, Donta Hightower, Trevor Scott, Markell Carter
CB (5) Devin McCourty, Kyle Arrington, Ras-I Dowling, Sterling Moore, Alfonzo Dennard
SS (1) Patrick Chung
FS (2) Steve Gregory, Tavon Wilson
ST (6) Stephen Gostkowski, Danny Aiken, Zoltan Mesko, Matthew Slater, Marquice Cole, Jeff Tarpinian

Total players: 53
Created with Pats Picker: Pats Picker 2012

supafly

You're right, and I sent my comments before I looked at how the picker had the players/positions arranged, so that's my bad on that one.

Certainly didn't mean to nitpick your selections (although I don't imagine that you took it that way, at least I hope not), especially after seeing some of the intense competition.

I didn't have White on mine either, and I don't have any more than 4 RB's...it's almost impossible to determine.

I know one thing, there's going to be some SERIOUS competition and shrewd roster moves this TC.

And that's a great thing!!!

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Patiently waiting to defend the next "bubble" player in this summer's training camp.....

patsfan13

Terrific app much better than my spreadsheet. I added A Carter, G Warren and K Faulk to the roster. Assumptions A Carter & Mankins start season on PUP. Hoyer traded during camp.

QB (2) Tom Brady, Ryan Mallet
RB (5) Stevan Ridley, Shane Vereen, Danny Woodhead, Spencer Larsen, Brandon Bolden
WR (6) Wes Welker, Julian Edelman, Matthew Slater, Jabar Gaffney, Donte Stallworth, Brandon Lloyd
TE (3) Rob Gronkowski, Aaron Hernandez, Daniel Fells
C (3) Dan Connolly, Dan Koppen, Ryan Wendell
G (3) Brian Waters, Robert Gallery, Nick McDonald
T (3) Sebastian Vollmer, Nate Solder, Marcus Cannon
DE (4) Brandon Deaderick, Jonathan Fanene, Chandler Jones, Jake Bequette
DT (4) Vince Wilfork, Kyle Love, Myron Pryor, Gerald Warren
ILB(4) Jerod Mayo, Brandon Spikes, Donta Hightower, Dane Fletcher
OLB(4) Rob Ninkovich, Trevor Scott, Jermaine Cunningham, Markell Carter
CB (5) Ras-I Dowling, Sterling Moore, Kyle Arrington, Alfonzo Dennard, Marquice Cole
SS (2) Devin McCourty, Steve Gregory
FS (2) Patrick Chung, Tavon Wilson
ST (3) Danny Aiken, Zoltan Mesko, Stephen Gostkowski


PS players: Hartline, Forston, Zuevics, Kettani, Ebert, Ebner, Hix or Tarpinian

Projections comeback by Cunningham, M Carter steps up (White is very tough cut here) and Bolden is the UDFA who makes the roster this year.

Lots of tough cuts inc Branch who loses close battle to Stallworth, will not be surprised if this goes the other way. Even losing guys to IR during camp this is a very deep roster, defered to younger players for game day inactives

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