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Old 03-20-2012, 10:04 PM   #11
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Didn't Lawson get signed by the Packers today? He's a better player than his stats lead you to believe.
No. They had him for a visit though. They seem to be the only team to have shown any interest so far, so I'd guess he signs within the next day or two.

I agree that Lawson isn't quite as poor as some make him out to be, and I think he can set the edge effectively and be helpful in the run game.

His coverage is the variable that a lot of people can't seem to agree on, although I certainly don't think it's any worse than anyone we currently have.

He can't seem to rush the passer at all though, and that is where most of the posters expected him to shine. I think that adds to his bad reputation in some degree.
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:18 PM   #12
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I thought they were going to take him in that draft, but they took Lawrence Maroney instead....
Don't get me started. Lawson could have has some Pro Bowls here. We took.....
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Exactly what they need, somebody to be garbage in coverage when Matthews is rushing and to be no better than average rushing the passer to take attention off Matthews.
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Same player, different year:

Who will fill in for TBC at OLB?

Who will fill in for TBC at OLB?

Lawson to Cincy for one year...
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You'd expect a 6'5", 240 pound LB who runs a 4.4 to be good in coverage or rushing the QB. In reality, all he can offer a team is run defense. He's bad in coverage and he's not a very good pass rusher.
Sciz, I thought I read somewhere where he actually IS pretty good in coverage. Then I checked and found that he has had 10 passes defended over the last two years. That's more that Ninko or CPace.

He's certainly at the right time of his career to show some production. But even if his athletic skills haven't matched his sack production, he seems like he'd be a positive addition to OLB corps....at the right price.

BTW- I also think adding or not adding a Lawson might have something to say about how the Pats are thinking about Cunningham's future. they might not add that kind of a cost, if they resigng Anderson and think Jermaine is getting ready to have a bounce back year and could contribute in a rotation. Just a thought

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Sciz, I thought I read somewhere where he actually IS pretty good in coverage. Then I checked and found that he has had 10 passes defended over the last two years. That's more that Ninko or CPace.


I was also going to point out the fact that while he has certainly had an underwhelming role, I did not agree that his pass coverage was quite as bad as Sciz has been pointing out.

I have actually seen reports/articles that state that it's one of his positives besides setting the edge + run support.

I decided against it b/c everyone has their own opinion about certain players, and I honestly haven't visually seen enough of his play myself to make any kind of determination.

Regardless, as some have pointed out--it would seem like a futile argument anyway, since all indications claim that Belichick is not interested, and has not been in any of the other years (including the initial draft of 2006).
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I thought they were going to take him in that draft, but they took Lawrence Maroney instead....
I'll never forgive the Patriots for that
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Cousin, I appreciate your enthusiasm but 2010 Draft result was an apparition, BB will dress up in a costume draft day to look like.....BB!
You know he is going to trade down and away from the most ready talent to deal in a low end numbers game.

FA is our shot. He is better picking FAs than a mid pack Draft record that the Team really has over the last six years or so. If we get two pieces out of the Draft that will be long term starters or considered above average by NFL standards, we will have won. 17% is NFL average of success in a draft. That to me, is a little underwhelming and amounts to about two per Team gauged in a term period of three years.

That being said, we have six picks, Two should stick. I hope we get 2010 again.

What I am trying to say is at this stage nothing he does makes sense but he can make it work. He wins which is why you look the other way. He is a great coach but makes life hard on himself by making the proverbial "chicken salad".

I should not drag you down but Draft day always winds up as a disappointment the last years. His down trades have not really worked out well. More like mediocre results.

I should be optimistic and say this is the year he uses picks that have a chance to stick. I will try to keep your attitude but I still have trouble knowing maybe only two work.
Oh Well.
I hope you are right this year.

That being said no one can be that upset with his FA picks so far as a combination. I say well done. You can't get everyone but some make sense when you study them.
I say Lawson could be extraordinary here. I would take a shot but CAP might be an issue now.
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I always thought he was an intriguing prospect. Have not really seen him name pop up, not a fit for the pats?
The FO should have interest in Lawson, and lots of it. He's merely the best remaining UFA 3-4 OLB/4-3 DE
in a very, very small marketplace.

Unless somebody not currently a free agent suddenly becomes available, and Bill doesn't sign
at least one (pref. 2) of Anderson, Lawson & Carter, then we need to hope that Markell Carter
& Cunnyham are ready to contribute; and how realisic is that?
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