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Old 03-14-2012, 02:49 PM   #31
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Color me unimpressed. I think I'd rather address issue through the draft.
Hand the man a cigar. The Belichcik MO is precisely that, get a vet FA and also draft someone, and thirdly sign a couple of UDFAs at the position too...
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Old 03-14-2012, 02:54 PM   #32
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I don't get Landry. Too much of a SS who's biggest weakness is in coverage. Not exactly what we need at safety. Not to mention the injury issues and the contract it would take to get him.
Seems to me Chung missed half a season as a SS. They maybe are interviewing Landry as a sub SS, and part time, in the box player, in some situations. Belichick is THE situation substitute Coach...
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I say sign both. Then at Safety we could have Chung, Landry, Chung, possibly Ihedigbo as a backup, maybe even draft a guy. That's a pretty good core a safety. And if Landry goes down, McCourty or Gregory can fill in. I also hear Gregory can play corner as well.
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Agree that the need is really at coverage safety.
One big problem with the corners was lack of safety help on the inside - both diagnosing plays and getting there quickly.

There are maybe four or five free safeties you would consider as upgrades - that's it.
Markelle Martin, Oklahoma State - maybe second round
Trenton Robinson, Michigan State - third
Christian Thompson, South Carolina State - Day Three
Aaron Henry, Wisconsin - Day Three
Neiko Thorpe, Auburn - Day Three

And not a lot of big corners you would consider converting.
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Agree that the need is really at coverage safety.
One big problem with the corners was lack of safety help on the inside - both diagnosing plays and getting there quickly.

There are maybe four or five free safeties you would consider as upgrades - that's it.
Markelle Martin, Oklahoma State - maybe second round
Trenton Robinson, Michigan State - third
Christian Thompson, South Carolina State - Day Three
Aaron Henry, Wisconsin - Day Three
Neiko Thorpe, Auburn - Day Three

And not a lot of big corners you would consider converting.
It seems you are just refering to the draft but I will make a blanket statement about all free agents and Rookies. We did not have a coverage safety last year, we had a couple of in the box safeties, a couple of CBs playing safety, and one STer pretending to be safety (Sergio), so by default any coverage safety is an upgrade.

I am all for throwing as much mud against the wall as we can and see what sticks.
Come TC safety should consist of -
Chung
Landry
Ihedibo
Gregory
Draft Pick (perferably from one of the first 3 rounds)
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Sergio
Any other free agent we can find.

Bring em all in and take the best four or 5 out of camp. no reason the above wouldnt be better than this year.
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He's not Sergio Brown, so I like it
If he replaces Sergio. All the better..
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BB's job, make the team better. This guy is no stud but is better than a few of the stumps we have listed on the 2011 roster in the safety position, assuming he plays STs.
Yep, and what so many simply fail to understand is that Belichick is looking at the really big picture, not just the really expensive shiny baubles that always pop up at the beginning of free agency every year. He is looking at every unit, it's strengths and weaknesses, coming contracts and who they will be able to keep going forward and who they need to upgrade from. He is looking at the overall free agent market and the whole draft and where they can most likely upgrade in each. Failure to sign the biggest names at absurd prices on the first day of free agency is the mark of a smart personnel man who is dealing from a position of strength and not of weakness.

Like most I would love Mario Williams or another big impact player but the bottom line, at least from everything I can tell, is that Belichik is going to use every avenue available to him to upgrade the whole team from where they ended the season, and once again they will be one of the best teams in the league and will be in that same position of strength once again next offseason.
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If he replaces Sergio. All the better..
Sergio Brown should never see the field as a safety or CB again unless a natural catastrophe happens. Even then I'd have to think hard on it.

But to be fair, he is one of the best special teams players on the Pats roster. I hope he stays awhile in that role.
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Gregory - No
Landry - No
Richard Marshall - Yes
Gregory is a backup-depth guy any way you look at it. The Chargers fans who are ****ting on him have obviously never had to watch Sergio Brown start for their team.

Landry seems like he just got too damn big and that's why he's getting hurt. I'd take him for the Big Nickel but I don't see the point of paying big money to a guy who can't cover. I hope the Jets waste their meager cap space on this guy so I can watch him running 10 yards behind Hernandez.

Richard Marshall is a much better version of Gregory. Versatile CB/FS. And he's visiting the Dolphins. F them. Bring him in.
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Landry isn't looking like a safety anymore. More like a bodybuilder. I doubt this size is even useful in the NFL.


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