Brandon Lloyd meeting with 49ers: Patriots are gonna blow it - Page 11 - New England Patriots Forums

borg · 03-14-2012, 07:54 AM

Who knows what the Patriots thought process is this FA period....but two things come to mind as we sit here watching teams snatching up WRs out of the gate....
1) BB made Randy Moss rework his contract down before he arrived....essentially requiring an audition year before the real money flowed
2) Pierre Garcon just signed an $8 mill/year deal

Using the 2 bits of info above....we can surmise that BB will NOT go big money/long term on an unknown....and.....If Garcon is getting $8 mill, Lloyd will demand equal if not more......
Not gonna happen at these prices
***With Chicago trading for Marshall.....the Notre Dame WR may slip into our laps

Nunchucks · 03-14-2012, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JMarr

Yeah, that Belichick is really "blowing it" already--what a fool. Might as well start planning for 2013 since it looks like we're not getting any overpriced FA wide receivers this year...

Seriously, the arm chair GMs need to take a step back. We're actually set up pretty well at receiver as things stand. Sure I'd like to have a Fitzgerald/VJax type wideout, but so does practically everyone else. This isn't fantasy football and we have plenty of receiving weapons as it stands IMO. As long as Ocho takes a steps up his game this year (seems like BB thinks he will now that he's had a year in the offense), he and Branch are perfectly serviceable as wideouts.

I do expect BB to take a more vertical threat type guy in the draft, in spite of his track record of drafting WRs.

As somebody who has fully supported Chad Johnson all last year, WTF makes you think he will step up this year?

The WR group is probably among the most pathetic in the league.

Dutchmaster617 · 03-14-2012, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sciz

1. You know what they should do? They should have this thing in like a month and a half where the different teams can pick guys from college and have them be on their teams. Maybe the Pats would prefer to participate in this "college picking players thingie."

2. Have you been following the Meachem story at all tonight?

3. Do we even know that the Pats are interested?

The Pats can't draft WRs at all, just grab Mike Wallace and call it a day.

***TomPatriot*** · 03-14-2012, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729

BTW, of all the 12 playoff teams last year, can anyone name one of those teams that made a free agent signing yesterday that wasn't to re-sign one of their own free agents. I can't think of any. The 49ers signed Moss on Monday, but there wasn't one signing from any of the 12 playoff teams otherwise.

Who made most of the free agent signings and team visits yesterday? Bad teams and the Redskins (who was an average team at best last year).

Lofa Tatupu signed with Atlanta but your point still stands.

Dfresh429 · 03-14-2012, 07:57 AM

Obviously, it all has to shake out, BUT..

Even if the Patriots stay status quo with last years team, there is no way they even sniff the Superbowl this year. Last years schedule and path was a gift from god.

The reason the Patriots lost in 2010, the reason they barely beat Baltimore and lost to NYG..they have ZERO threat outside of the hash marks. Zero. All a good defense has to do is congest the middle of the field and the game is over. how do you people not see that?

The Patriots NEED some sort of reliable option on the outside. Not Jerry Rice, not 07 version of Randy Moss. but soemone who can get open and catch a ball when it matters. If they have this, Welker/Gronk/hernandez automatically have more room.

I'm convinced WR is the biggest need. It would just take so much pressure off of Brady/welker/gronk/hernandez.

Offensive line is next, secondary 3rd, IMHO.

stcjones · 03-14-2012, 07:58 AM

Well said.

Good post

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Originally Posted by Nunchucks

The Patriots have a 3-4 year window with Tom Brady and they NEED an otside the numbers WR, they will not get one in the draft that will be a factor in year one or probably even in year two. That means anybody they draft will participate in Tom Brady SB window 3 and 4...

Patriots must get a FA WR and Lloyd is probably the best guy to come in and be a factor from day one. I am really unhappy with the Patriots not addressing a glaring weakness. I suppose I am used to that, but still...I hate to see them come up short yet again because Deon Branch is too old, Wes Welker is limited in what he can do and opposing defenses flood the middle of the field.

Oh and Ocho is unable to read and react properly. If the patriots go into this season with the current group, it is gonna suck, we will watch the team once again bury mid-level teams and struggle mightily against good defenses...and we will all know why, the WR group is pathetic.

RelocatedPatFan · 03-14-2012, 07:58 AM

Good to see all this passion from my fellow Patriot fans.

I need a speed reading course to keep up with these threads

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***Rob0729*** · 03-14-2012, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TomPatriot

Lofa Tatupu signed with Atlanta but your point still stands.

Well, Tatupu and Moss both missed the entire 2011 season due to lack of interest in them/they decided not to accept offers. That actually boost my point.

condon84 · 03-14-2012, 08:03 AM

Could be that the Pats told Lloyd to go see what he can get in the market and if the numbers aren't too high, they'll match/come close to it.

Either way, Ocho should have a better year next year.

Dutchmaster617 · 03-14-2012, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dfresh429

Obviously, it all has to shake out, BUT..

Even if the Patriots stay status quo with last years team, there is no way they even sniff the Superbowl this year. Last years schedule and path was a gift from god.

The reason the Patriots lost in 2010, the reason they barely beat Baltimore and lost to NYG..they have ZERO threat outside of the hash marks. Zero. All a good defense has to do is congest the middle of the field and the game is over. how do you people not see that?

The Patriots NEED some sort of reliable option on the outside. Not Jerry Rice, not 07 version of Randy Moss. but soemone who can get open and catch a ball when it matters. If they have this, Welker/Gronk/hernandez automatically have more room.

I'm convinced WR is the biggest need. It would just take so much pressure off of Brady/welker/gronk/hernandez.

Offensive line is next, secondary 3rd, IMHO.

Pass rush and secondary are bigger needs, if we can stop teams in key moments and give Brady some comfort he won't need to score 30 a game. But our WRs are horrible, Branch is finished and should retire, Ocho is useless and Welker is too small.