PatsWickedPissah

My bias as where I'm coming from. I regard Hoyer as someone with the talent at the very least to be an excellent NFL backup. I also feel that he's better than that, a player who would be a better starter than several of the teams' QBs currently fielded.

Last year we carried 3 QBs. Although some wanted Hoyer traded, i was strongly against that in 2011 with Mallett an unknown who had an abbreviated camp prep year. This year's situation is different. The Pats could tender Hoyer at a 2nd round pick level and see what happens or sign him to that contract. Keeping him means 3 QBs again. I'm one of those fools who likes our 53rd player and worries about young potential talent we cut destined for the PS where they can be snatched away.

Were we to sign Hoyer to a new contract and Mallet has a great camp should we and could we trade Hoyer and his cap hit expecting that summer attrition likely leaves at least one team of 31 eager to fill a void? Even for a 7th?

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AndyJohnson

Its impossible to answer because you don't know what would come back in trade, or what it would take to lock him up.
Tender him, and let him shop himself. If someone offers him a long term deal you keep him if the money is low (because you know there is a market to trade him during the deal too) and if its high, you take the 2nd.
If he gets no interest sign him to a small money 3 year deal.

MP-Logick

First round tender. Can't lose him until Mallett is a viable backup.

Aßßynormal

I don't have a sense of how far Mallett has progressed. Some of that may come out in Hoyer's tendering, meaning if he's tendered at a first round level than that seems to say we need to keep him. OTOH, it could just be negotiation stance by BB. Now, if they are happy with Mallett then I'd move Hoyer at a second round level (or less compensation if he leaves the conference). I don't want him in Miami and would look to say Seattle to trade at a reduced rate (he signs the tender, we trade him, then he signs a clean contract with a new team).

My opinion, absent information on Mallett, is that we tender him at a first round level, have him sign and come to camp. Then, once comfortable with Mallet, we trade him for at least a third. The exception would be if we needed cap space due to events from training camp (such as multiple injuries requiring additional free agents), then we could take less than a third.

I would sign Pennington to the roster and put him on the PUP should we lose Hoyer. We've done this before with Testeverde and another (former Bears QB). That would mean the 53rd player could be development through October.

Deus Irae

It depends on where Mallett is. If Mallett's ready to be the backup, you tender Hoyer and hope that someone is willing to give you something in trade for him, or willing to sign him even though he's tendered. If Mallett's still a glorified waterboy, tender Hoyer and match any offers he might get.

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serifyn

2nd round tender, look, Hoyer is the best backup for this team right now, and could very well be the future quarterback of this team going forward. but we have no idea where Mallett is.

The Patriots have to bring all 3 guys into camp and see where they are, if they cant determine who is better after camp they simply have to carry a 3rd QB again.

Right now the patriots are in Great position with their quarterbacks, they are still learning behind brady who is still preforming at a high level. i said in a post about a month ago that if the Patriots believe Hoyer could be close to as good as Brady is now they should consider trading Brady and signing Hoyer long-term, i still believe this, but if they dont know, it is better to be safe than sorry.

MoLewisrocks

They aren't going to know if Mallett is viable before the middle of August. Don't be surprised to see another UDFA (not late rounder since we have none) in camp as develomental insurance in case he isn't. So you tender him, 2nd round will probably do it but you never know because anyone who did sign him to an offer sheet would be willing to pay way more than we would. You can take a chance after the RFA deadline - provided he hasn't signed his tender, but he will - because he knows you can cut it in half like you did to Mankins. But he does want to start and he's not going to sign an extension here for that reason - teams see players who will as insufficiently motivated, like Jim Sorgi... Probably not going to behave like an ******* about being tendered either because he knows having this team in his corner will only help him potentially get a shot at starting somewhere. As it did for Cassel.

No matter how many times we go through this people here continue to struggle with who and what any of these guys are since Brady landed. And believe me, if someone offered Bill a 2nd today for Mallett he'd be flipped in a heartbeat because Bill could turn that pick into a first in the future...when he couldn't turn the original late 3rd into anything else of value to him at the time.

BradyBranch39

without knowing off hand the $$ difference between the 1 and 2 tender, I'd go with the 1 because I'd be terrified of some team taking him for a 2.

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AndyJohnson

The dynamics change as Brady ages.

We have also gone into a season with a backup we know less about than we do about Mallett right now.

resdubwhite

I can't imagine anyone would pay a second for him.

THeres no body of work to take that sort of risk and the raiders don't have a 2nd rounder.