BradyFTW!

How about "because it's only February"? When the other major UFAs start signing and Welker hasn't, then maybe there will be something to read into. For now, there isn't.

Ivan

Unless you bring in Larry Fitzgerald or Calvin Johnson there is no way to let Welker go and improve the offense.


Nothing personal but ANYONE who wants to get rid of Welker is a moron. His size has absolutely nothing to do with his abilities as a player, he is one of the most producive and best recievers to ever play the game and together with Brady they have been virtually unstoppable. It's not a matter of "loving Welker" it is a matter of looking at how good he is and how productive they are with him and realizing he has made them a much better team. The people advocatring replacing him now are the same as those who said he would be easily repalced by Edelman last offseason and this season once again proved just how wrong they are and just how good Welker is.

Fantasy football and Masdden have convinced fans they know more than Belichik and that measurables are more important than production. They would rather have Chad Jackson than Wes Welker, he's a real talent, he would be unstoppable with my controller.

tatepatsfan

I think it's way too early to be worried about this. For all we know, Welker could be on vacation with his new fiancee, trying to forget about how the season ended. Or visiting family, or doing any number of other things that take him out of Foxboro. Perhaps his agent is actively negotiating the deal on his behalf, and they are just doing a great job of keeping it under wraps. As other posters have pointed out, no other teams have signed their key free agents this offseason.

If it gets to be early March and we still haven't heard anything, then I'll get nervous. For now, let's just all acknowledge that we are desperate for some positive Pats news. Relax.

Ivan

That makes them easy to defend in a video game, in real football they are almost impossible to stop and the numbers prove it every year. If you are going to talk about real football then use real football as your argument, video games are irrelevant.

MoLewisrocks

Madden

So the answer is to strengthen them on the outside and weaken them through the middle? LOL The OL will love that formula.

The answer is to just find a freakin' viable outside threat. Doesn't have to be all world and certainly won't help if its once upon a time all world, either. And it won't help if they weaken the middle in the process.

They need to retain Welker just like they needed to retain Branch. The alternative was a lousy season followed by a season for the ages that still came up short when it mattered most with Welker and an all world outside threat, followed by three years of none to one and done while the outside threat was suddenly averaging $9M per and averaging less production by the season while the $4M run of the mill slot guy was setting records. Which is why the costly overhyped but less productive outside threat was swapped for a guy who could approach his production for a quarter of the cost. They tried to split the difference this season adding another outside threat for $4M AAV but came up empty handed because he couldn't adapt to a read and react offense. They know what they need, they just haven't hit on it yet.

UK_Pat37

You're missing all my points, but I'm not going to call you a moron for thinking it

Gotta give me credit..I didn't use madden as an example

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Ivan

And 95% of receivers can't do what Welker does, even if some of them can "stretch the field." You guys are absolutely fixated on what Welker supposedly can't do but don't even consider the fact that most of the receivers you want to replace him with could never do what he does for the Patriots offense, and I guarantee you that if you asked Tom Brady if there is any other receiver in football he would rather be throwing to he would tell you there isn't anyone he would rather have, and that;s not out off man love it is out of the realization of just how important Welker is to this offense.

The pro Welker contingent has been hearing these arguments since the Patriots gave a 2nd for him to the fish and those arguing against Welker have been proven wrong every single season to a degree i have never seen before. The last time Patriot fans have been proven this wrong was when some argued for keeping Bledsoe because Brady simply didn't have the arm Bledsoe had, and this argument is no different. Those crapping on Welker are 100% wrong and that has been proven absolutely, they might as well be saying the Patriots would have been better off with Bledsoe, he's unstoppable in Madden. Imagine if the Patriots brought back Bledsoe and Moss, they could stretch the Maddeen field and no Madden defense could stop them, then bring in Colston and Garcon and they would win 365 Madden Lombardis a year. Wow, how awesome would that be.


If some take this personally my apology, but I have completely had it with the fantasy football GM's and Maddenites making fantasy arguments that have no actual connection to reality. Wes Welker was one of the 2 best recievers in football this year, period, unless you bring in Megatron or Fitzgerald replacing him means getting worse.

UK_Pat37

Weaken them over the midddle? We're too strong over the middle. If anything that's all we can do!

That'#s my point with Welker...he doesn't stretch good defense...teams that generate enough with their front four have it easy against us and Welker is half the reason...if we didn't have a decent O Line we'd be screwed. We have no high or speed at the split end position.

IMO Welker has played more split end than his traditional slot since the bringing in of the 2 TE formations.

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Ivan

It isn't personal UK, I have nothing against you, but your "points" imo aren't actually points at all. His size is irrelevant, and saying he can't stretch the field without acknowledging that the receivers you want to bring in can't do most of what Welker can. Saying that he limits the offense is flat out crazy, he brings more to their offense than 99% of receivers can. we have heard all those "points" for years and they have all been proven wrong, over and over and over again.


My apology for lumping you in with any idiot who invokes Madden, that was cruel and unusual.

UK_Pat37

I don't agree but we could go around in circles all day long with this!

I do think it's a tad unfair to label people who don't think with the grain as 'morons' or 'fantasy football GM's and Maddenites' though...I've seen a few arguments for moving on from Welker and the logic is there IMO...just like there is logic with your argument also.

It's an interesting debate Don't start labeling people because you think you're right and you don;'t agree with the other perception.

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