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Re: Pete Prisco's top 50 FA's
1. DT/DE in 3-4/4-3
2. OLB 3-4/4-3
3. SS
4. CB (2)
5. WR
I understand the fact that this team has not scored as much in the playoffs when they needed to but I think folks are falling into the same trap as after the 06 season that offense- especially WRs will fix this team's problems.
The Pats need a defense that can make a stop in the 4th qtr.
They need playmakers on defense.
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"If a player has talent and doesn't succeed, that means that they either don't want to be successful or I have failed as a coach." - Bill Belichick
ORLY? Because McCourty, Chung, Dowling, and Moore aren't talented players? They've all shown incredible talent (Dowling was considered the 2nd best CB in last years draft), it's consistency that's been the issue.
Consistency is achieved by playing a lot with the guys around you, getting a ton of both practice and game reps so you can start to predict what your teammates are going to do in a given situation.
Bringing in a new guy isn't necessarily going to improve consistency.
Also, this notion of "leadership" equaling guys being scared to mess up because of another player's wrath is BS. What would Rodney Harrison do, threaten to beat these guys up if they screwed up? Come on.
1. DT/DE in 3-4/4-3
2. OLB 3-4/4-3
3. SS
4. CB (2)
5. WR
I understand the fact that this team has not scored as much in the playoffs when they needed to but I think folks are falling into the same trap as after the 06 season that offense- especially WRs will fix this team's problems.
The Pats need a defense that can make a stop in the 4th qtr.
They need playmakers on defense.
yet it was arguably receiver that was the reason we didn't win that last game. How many drives stalled? How many dropped passes were there? We had chances to burry the giants while the Defense was doing its job and we couldn't. As time wen't on the defense improved and the offense seemed to be slowing down. With Dowling coming back and Arrington playing the way he did why would corner be a need unless its to move McCourty to safety? You list SS as a need but this team stresses the ability to play both safety positions, if anything I'd say we need someone a bit more rangier than chung but thats just my opinion. The Defensive line/pass rush can definitely be approved and thats the only position I would say is of higher need than WR.
I really wish people would see some of the plays receivers around the NFL make every sunday and then think about what Tom Brady could do with someone like that. For too long Brady has been forced to put the ball in the perfect spot or hold it for an hour because the inside is clogged and outside receivers can't get a step in man coverage. If TB had someone like Nicks this offense would be operating on a different level.
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yet it was arguably receiver that was the reason we didn't win that last game. How many drives stalled? How many dropped passes were there? We had chances to burry the giants while the Defense was doing its job and we couldn't. As time wen't on the defense improved and the offense seemed to be slowing down. With Dowling coming back and Arrington playing the way he did why would corner be a need unless its to move McCourty to safety? You list SS as a need but this team stresses the ability to play both safety positions, if anything I'd say we need someone a bit more rangier than chung but thats just my opinion. The Defensive line/pass rush can definitely be approved and thats the only position I would say is of higher need than WR.
I really wish people would see some of the plays receivers around the NFL make every sunday and then think about what Tom Brady could do with someone like that. For too long Brady has been forced to put the ball in the perfect spot or hold it for an hour because the inside is clogged and outside receivers can't get a step in man coverage. If TB had someone like Nicks this offense would be operating on a different level.
1. If Dowling can comeback and remain healthy.....Big IF with Glass-I
2. McCourty is 185. No way he can last a whole season playing FS position
3. Pass rush was fine with Anderson, Carter. Problem is rest of the DL is a 34 personnel being forced to play 43. They need to revert back to 34 an stick with it, or if 43 is the decision then blow up the DL and go get 2 more solid DLmen - a DT and DE, AND sign Anderson and Carter(1 year deal). That would mean Jermaine cunningham era is over(Sean Crable 2.0)
4. If the offensive scheme is setup to be be so complex for WRs, then its the scheme, not the players. What were the scouts doing for last 10 years since Branch/Givens ? They could not identify 1 friggin "smart" WR who may not have the elite talent but cam read the QB and Defense. Much of it is also Brady's fault. in the early years he trusted many receivers - Brown, Branch, Givens, Faulk, Graham, Fauria, Pass, Patten. Just look how many touches the WR and TE used to get on the team a total balanced approach.
Then suddenly he fell into the trap of only focusing on Moss or Welker where in 2007 these 2 caught ~52% of all his completions
Last edited by DonBlackmon55; 02-11-2012 at 12:50 PM..
1. DT/DE in 3-4/4-3
2. OLB 3-4/4-3
3. SS
4. CB (2)
5. WR
I understand the fact that this team has not scored as much in the playoffs when they needed to but I think folks are falling into the same trap as after the 06 season that offense- especially WRs will fix this team's problems.
The Pats need a defense that can make a stop in the 4th qtr.
They need playmakers on defense.
Sobering fact. By playing good 4th quarter defense we could have at least 3 more rings, maybe more.
4. If the offensive scheme is setup to be be so complex for WRs, then its the scheme, not the players. What were the scouts doing for last 10 years since Branch/Givens ? They could not identify 1 friggin "smart" WR who may not have the elite talent but cam read the QB and Defense. Much of it is also Brady's fault. in the early years he trusted many receivers - Brown, Branch, Givens, Faulk, Graham, Fauria, Pass, Patten. Just look how many touches the WR and TE used to get on the team a total balanced approach.
Then suddenly he fell into the trap of only focusing on Moss or Welker where in 2007 these 2 caught ~52% of all his completions
This is a bunch of crap.
From 2007 thru 2011 the Patriots are 1st in points scored. 2nd in passing yards. First in passing TDs. 2nd in completion %. Have the least Ints. Have the most wins BY 9.
Brady didn't stop throwing to the open receiver, he finally got receivers who get open often.
They have found enough receivers to learn the system to be the best passing offense in the NFL.
You are frankly out of your mind if you see the passing offense as a problem and think the system that has been the best in the NFL and the QB that has been the best in the NFL is the problem because the end of the bench WRs couldnt fit into it.
1. If Dowling can comeback and remain healthy.....Big IF with Glass-I BB Drafted him with the first pick in the second round. I think its safe to say that he has faith in him coming back and contributing after a year to get healthy.
2. McCourty is 185. No way he can last a whole season playing FS position McCourty will probably be pushing 200 at the start of the season. Dashon Goldson is 200lb and he lasted fine. Safety can be upgraded but trying to push a rookie corner on the field over what we have is a stretch.
3. Pass rush was fine with Anderson, Carter. Problem is rest of the DL is a 34 personnel being forced to play 43. They need to revert back to 34 an stick with it, or if 43 is the decision then blow up the DL and go get 2 more solid DLmen - a DT and DE, AND sign Anderson and Carter(1 year deal). That would mean Jermaine cunningham era is over(Sean Crable 2.0) I love how you write a player under contract off over two guys who aren't. I also love how you fail to mention how Carter got shut down for the year with a knee injury. Its a big "if" to see if he can contribute next season. You can never have enough pass rush and a guy like Upshaw who can become a real stall wort in this defense against bot the pass and run would pay dividends next year.
4. If the offensive scheme is setup to be be so complex for WRs, then its the scheme, not the players. What were the scouts doing for last 10 years since Branch/Givens ? They could not identify 1 friggin "smart" WR who may not have the elite talent but cam read the QB and Defense. Much of it is also Brady's fault. in the early years he trusted many receivers - Brown, Branch, Givens, Faulk, Graham, Fauria, Pass, Patten. Just look how many touches the WR and TE used to get on the team a total balanced approach.
Then suddenly he fell into the trap of only focusing on Moss or Welker where in 2007 these 2 caught ~52% of all his completions
Honestly this whole locking in thing is a farce in my opinion. Are you really trying to tell me TB would look past an open receiver to throw in to double coverage? I think it has more to do with other guys not getting open and TB would rather let Moss try to make a play than to take a sack. Others may be overconfidence. The talent at TE was no where near what we have now so I you really can't compare the two eras. Im also waiting to see a receiver who wasn't smart enough to play here go on to have success with another organization.
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Re: Pete Prisco's top 50 FA's
You can never have enough pass rush and a guy like Upshaw who can become a real stall wort in this defense against bot the pass and run would pay dividends next year.
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