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Old 02-06-2012, 07:57 AM   #41
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The Pats lost by 4 points. Take away the Safety and they lose by 2. I don't see how the Safety really effected the game other than keeping the D out there for one more series.
The safety indirectly lead to 9 points, which were the only points scored by the Giants in the 1st half. Even if you don't think that the safety had anything to do with the TD scored off the ensuing free kick, you have to admit that a 17-15 lead completely changes the game plan vs a 17-13 lead in the waning moments of the game.
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:01 AM   #42
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Didn't score 20 pts in the last 2 SB's.
This is the only reason we lost! Did you think we would win without scoring 20 pts? I didn't and bet you didn't either.
Defense did their jobs in both games.

Let er rip........
Your offense is always bad in the big games. You guys have these conservative game plans and your play calling isn't very good. It doesn't help that Brady alwasy seems to turn the ball over and play poorly in these big games. So much for the greatest QB ever.
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:03 AM   #43
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Fact: Our vaunted O failed in the playoffs. Again. Except for two well-executed drives, the Offense was flat. Normally reliable receivers dropped passes, Brady was mediocre without Gronk and made 2 critical mistakes.

The defense was asked to bail us out time after time, exactly like in the Ravens game. You can't ask a Defense win the game for you.. Our defenses in the SB winning years were incredible--the current guys are mostly castoffs who did yoeman's work and played their asses off. Spikes was a beast; Ninko, Deaderick, Moore, Ellis et al played way over their heads, McCourty, Mayo and Wilfork were solid.

Continuing to ignore the need for a solid running game and putting everything on Brady's shoulders is the definition of insanity. When did Brady and the Pats ever win a Super Bowl? When they could run the ball.
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Fact: Our vaunted O failed in the playoffs. Again. Except for two well-executed drives, the Offense was flat. Normally reliable receivers dropped passes, Brady was mediocre without Gronk and made 2 critical mistakes.

The defense was asked to bail us out time after time, exactly like in the Ravens game. You can't ask a Defense win the game for you.. Our defenses in the SB winning years were incredible--the current guys are mostly castoffs who did yoeman's work and played their asses off. Spikes was a beast; Ninko, Deaderick, Moore, Ellis et al played way over their heads, McCourty, Mayo and Wilfork were solid.

Continuing to ignore the need for a solid running game and putting everything on Brady's shoulders is the definition of insanity. When did Brady and the Pats ever win a Super Bowl? When they could run the ball.
If Brady where Manning, Brees or Rodgers he could carry your team on his shoulders. Sadly, he's not.
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Didn't score 20 pts in the last 2 SB's.
This is the only reason we lost! Did you think we would win without scoring 20 pts? I didn't and bet you didn't either.
Defense did their jobs in both games.

Let er rip........
There is nothing wrong with what you said. In 2006 they lost in the AFC Championship game.

The Giants beat them in 2007 in the SB, In 2008 they did not make the playoffs.

In 2009 they lost to the Ravens, in 2010 they lost to the Jets. Yesterday was a disaster.

The Pats need to go to a balanced offense. I am tired of the Throw, throw, throw and very little run.
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It doesn't help that Brady alwasy seems to turn the ball over and play poorly in these big games. So much for the greatest QB ever.
Jets fan? Sanchez is pretty good.

But I do agree somewhat. Seems like the magic is gone. Still love TB though.
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Your offense is always bad in the big games. You guys have these conservative game plans and your play calling isn't very good. It doesn't help that Brady alwasy seems to turn the ball over and play poorly in these big games. So much for the greatest QB ever.
UMMMM..... he's not. Montana is.
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Yes it is a great history to have, no one is going to take that away but it doesn't change the fact that the offense we have just hasn't been living up to it's end of the game.

You have to admit that the defense played well beyond itself tonight. While the offense left a lot to be desired-sloppy blocking-sloppy attempts at catching the ball-sloppy throws.

This has been my team since 1974 and that won't change but not everything is roses here.
You are not allowed to criticize the Pats. You may buy tickets to the games but don't speak out when there is a problem.
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Too many rookies posting here today.

It's stil la team loss. The offense did need to score more points. the defense did make some stops, but also gave us long fields to work with. i think we were pinned inside out 10 yard line 3 times by their punter?

Special teams didn't give us any extra in starting field position either. Still, the offense needed to score more than 17 points (I felt befire the game) for us to win this game. But, you can't be expoected to drive the ball 85 yards to score on most of your possessions unless you are going against a sub par defense.
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I don't see how the Safety really effected the game other than keeping the D out there for one more series.
Keeping the D out there, which also means the offense isn't out there, affects everything else.
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