The NFL SERIOUSLY needs to revamp "injury time outs" - Page 5 - New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard
NEWS
|
FORUM
|
PHOTOS
|
VIDEOS
|
FULL STATS DATABASE
|
PODCAST
|
RUMOR MILL
Get Social With PatsFans.com
Early Roster Projection
Ryan's Journey Started Early
POST DRAFT PODCAST

Go Back   New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard > PatsFans.com Forums > PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum
Forgot Password? Join PatsFans.com!
Register Blogs FAQ Members List Calendar Arcade Mark Forums Read Chat Room

WELCOME TO OUR FORUM HERE AT PATSFANS.COM!
ARE YOU NEW HERE? NOT LOGGED IN? PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO REGISTER FOR AN ACCOUNT AND LOGIN TO REMOVE THIS WINDOW

Welcome to PatsFans.com. Do you have an account? If not - please take a moment to register for our forum and experience a much smoother experience with fewer ads, along with no longer having to see this notification window. Also learn about how you can receive a free Patriots T-Shirt from the Patriots Official ProShop by CLICKING HERE. Please enjoy your stay here, and Go Pats!

Like Tree29Likes

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-09-2012, 11:28 AM   #41
On The Game Day Roster
 
THELAWFIRM226's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 375
Default Re: The NFL SERIOUSLY needs to revamp "injury time outs"

In my opinion the fake injuries are not the most pressing issue at hand. What bothers me is the intentional 12 man on the field by the giants in order to run some time off the clock and only lose 5 yards on it. I thought it over and at first I believed a clock-run off would solve it, but no, that would not work, it would cause too many issues because for every foul there would have to be a clock run off and it would get messy. Basically what needs to happen is to make it a dead ball foul and that should clear up the issue so that the intentional time run off does not even occur.

Besides, I'm not sure what the NFL can realistically even do to spearhead the fake injury plague. I'm sure they will try to come up with something but how effective will it truly be?
THELAWFIRM226 is offline  
FEATURED ADVERTISEMENT
DONATE TO PATSFANS.COM
RECEIVE A FREE PATS T-SHIRT AND SAVE 15% OFF WHEN YOU BUY FROM THE OFFICIAL PROSHOP!

Free T-Shirt & Save 15% Off!
Like Our Site? Please help support our site and server costs by DONATING TO PATSFANS.COM and receive a FREE PATRIOTS T-SHIRT and SAVE 15% off EVERY purchase you make from PatriotsProShop.com. You'll also receive added benefits to your account
including Removing All Ads During Your Experience Here At Our Forum.

NEEDED YEARLY SITE DONATIONS: 345 | CURRENT # OF SUBSCRIBED SUPPORTERS: 98

Updated 07/08/11

Help Us Reach Our Goal!

Old 02-09-2012, 11:36 AM   #42
Third String But Playing on Special Teams
 

Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 563
Default Re: The NFL SERIOUSLY needs to revamp "injury time outs"

There is nothing the NFL can do. There are tons of injuries in some games. If they rule that the injured player has to then sit out a drive, quarter or the whole game (as some here have suggested), it will needlessly penalize countless teams in the future who legitimately have injuries.

It's just tactical. It's a way for teams to counter a no huddle O.
Fball is offline  
Old 02-09-2012, 11:47 AM   #43
All Pro Poster
 

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 11,061
Default Re: The NFL SERIOUSLY needs to revamp "injury time outs"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fball View Post
There is nothing the NFL can do. There are tons of injuries in some games. If they rule that the injured player has to then sit out a drive, quarter or the whole game (as some here have suggested), it will needlessly penalize countless teams in the future who legitimately have injuries.

It's just tactical. It's a way for teams to counter a no huddle O.
I'm one who has suggested that an injured player sit out a drive. How is that needlessly penalizing a team with a legitimate injury?

Again, we're talking situations where the player can't even get off the field due to the injury. Even the most minor situations -- cramps, for ex? -- require some time to get rid of the cramp, hydrate, etc.

Is it perfect? No. Are there situations where a player could have a legit injury and have to sit out longer than he otherwise would have? Some, but I don't think many.

Seems to me it's a good balance, though.

I don't agree that it's acceptable as a "tactic" -- there's a reason teams have a certain number of timeouts.
chicowalker is offline  
Old 02-09-2012, 11:50 AM   #44
All Pro Poster
 

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 11,061
Default Re: The NFL SERIOUSLY needs to revamp "injury time outs"

Quote:
Originally Posted by THELAWFIRM226 View Post
In my opinion the fake injuries are not the most pressing issue at hand. What bothers me is the intentional 12 man on the field by the giants in order to run some time off the clock and only lose 5 yards on it. I thought it over and at first I believed a clock-run off would solve it, but no, that would not work, it would cause too many issues because for every foul there would have to be a clock run off and it would get messy. Basically what needs to happen is to make it a dead ball foul and that should clear up the issue so that the intentional time run off does not even occur.

Besides, I'm not sure what the NFL can realistically even do to spearhead the fake injury plague. I'm sure they will try to come up with something but how effective will it truly be?
OT: Dead ball foul -- if noticed in time -- could prevent the offense from a successful play, when the offense did nothing wrong. and if not noticed in time, you're left with the same situation.

Why would it be messy -- at least if restricted to the final 2 minutes of the halfs (or even just the final two minutes of the game)?
chicowalker is offline  
Old 02-09-2012, 11:50 AM   #45
Addicted to the light
 
Bella*chick's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: City of Blinding Lights
Posts: 7,186
My Mood: Blah
Default Re: The NFL SERIOUSLY needs to revamp "injury time outs"

And the league basically said knock it off as well.

I like the idea of missing a drive as well. I don't see that it needlessly penalizes, seems like a precaution, in fact.
chicowalker likes this.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by Bella*chick; 02-09-2012 at 11:50 AM..
Bella*chick is offline  
Old 02-09-2012, 11:51 AM   #46
Third String But Playing on Special Teams
 

Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 563
Default Re: The NFL SERIOUSLY needs to revamp "injury time outs"

Quote:
Originally Posted by chicowalker View Post
I'm one who has suggested that an injured player sit out a drive. How is that needlessly penalizing a team with a legitimate injury?

Again, we're talking situations where the player can't even get off the field due to the injury. Even the most minor situations -- cramps, for ex? -- require some time to get rid of the cramp, hydrate, etc.

Is it perfect? No. Are there situations where a player could have a legit injury and have to sit out longer than he otherwise would have? Some, but I don't think many.

Seems to me it's a good balance, though.

I don't agree that it's acceptable as a "tactic" -- there's a reason teams have a certain number of timeouts.
If they changed the rule like that, it would only be a matter of time before a QB got sacked & got the wind knocked out of him on a final drive of a losing game, and a team would be forced to try to complete a GW drive with the backup.
Fball is offline  
Old 02-09-2012, 11:55 AM   #47
In the Starting Line-up
 

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: England
Posts: 2,464
My Mood: Cheerful
Default Re: The NFL SERIOUSLY needs to revamp "injury time outs"

The sideline shot of Rolle laughing the play after he got "injured" gave it away.
Big-T is offline  
Old 02-09-2012, 12:00 PM   #48
In the Starting Line-up
 
Snake Eyes's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,373
Default Re: The NFL SERIOUSLY needs to revamp "injury time outs"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fball View Post
If they changed the rule like that, it would only be a matter of time before a QB got sacked & got the wind knocked out of him on a final drive of a losing game, and a team would be forced to try to complete a GW drive with the backup.
So what? How is that worse than a QB not being able to complete a game winning drive because the defense gets a bunch of BD timeouts for faking an injury?

If someone is apparently injured enough to give his teama time out then they should, by default, be too injured to jump back into that drive.
__________________
"The secret of steel has always carried with it a mystery, you must learn it's riddle, Conan, you must learn its discipline, for no one in this world can you trust, not men, not women, not beasts...this you can trust"


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Snake Eyes is offline  
Old 02-09-2012, 12:13 PM   #49
2nd Team Getting Their First Start
 

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Auburn, MA
Posts: 1,576
My Mood: Happy
Default Re: The NFL SERIOUSLY needs to revamp "injury time outs"

The issue then becomes - if a player has to sit out the drive due to an 'injury', rather than injuries and players flopping, you'll just have 'equipment malfunctions'. A shoe falls off, helmet strap comes off, etc. Those can stop play, too.

not sure what can be done about it, but it drives me insane also.
__________________
What doesn't kill us only makes us stronger...
cavtroop is offline  
Old 02-09-2012, 12:25 PM   #50
2nd Team Getting Their First Start
 

Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,895
Default Re: The NFL SERIOUSLY needs to revamp "injury time outs"

Quote:
Originally Posted by cavtroop View Post
The issue then becomes - if a player has to sit out the drive due to an 'injury', rather than injuries and players flopping, you'll just have 'equipment malfunctions'. A shoe falls off, helmet strap comes off, etc. Those can stop play, too.

not sure what can be done about it, but it drives me insane also.
I am almost positive that the referees do not call a timeout in any of the circumstances that you just described.
Ron Sellers is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Sponsored Links



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
"Joe" the "Plumber": "McCain Used Me;" Obama "Honest Politician" PatsFanInVa Political Discussion 18 02-16-2010 08:12 PM
NY Times "outs" a real CIA agent FreeTedWilliams Political Discussion 96 06-27-2008 11:44 PM
Palmer's doctor: "knee injury potentially career-ending," "worse than expected" pats1 PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum 44 01-13-2006 03:34 PM
BASES LOADED...."0" OUTS and ............. IcyPatriot Red Sox Fan Forum 4 10-10-2005 10:56 AM



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:28 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2

© Copyright 2000-2012. PatsFans.com Is a Partner of USA TODAY Sports Digital Properties.
The opinions posted in this forum do not necessarily reflect the opinions of our staff at PatsFans.com or USA Today.
We are not affiliated with the New England Patriots™ or the NFL™. The Photo Used In the header was taken by Ian Logue.

This site is owned and operated by I&K Internet Design Enterprises, LLC