Colts DT Quinn Pitc0ck turns away from team in training camp and quits - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

***Deus Irae*** · 07-29-2008, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fixit

Then quit after college and don't make a team waste time, effort, money, and a high draft pick on you. Then again, it happened to the Colts, so it's okay.

Ask any player about the differences from college to the NFL and you'll here them talk as if the games are almost completely different.

Look, I don't know why the guy retired and left good money on the table. I just know that football is a violent game that takes years off the lives of the players and leaves a lot of them permanently debilitated. I'm not about to belittle someone for deciding that the money is not worth it, no matter what point in their careers they do so. I didn't begrudge Sanders for doing it, or any of the O-lineman who retired from Patriots camp, or anyone else.

signbabybrady · 07-29-2008, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fixit

Then quit after college and don't make a team waste time, effort, money, and a high draft pick on you. Then again, it happened to the Colts, so it's okay.

Sorry but I think he owed it to himself to give it a try and also to at least cash in a little bit. I am not sure where the fault is in the guy persuing a talent only to find out his head just isn't in it.

Imagine if he had quit without going thru a season...he would have had to live with the what if his whole life. Now 20 years down the line when he looks back he can say he gave it a try and it wasn't for him and have no regrets.

I understand he had a gift that not everyone gets but that doesn't mean he has to love it and has to suffer thru it because you can't.

RayClay · 07-29-2008, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Deus Irae

All it should take is one look at a guy like Earl Campbell to understand why some people won't find it worth it. Now, that may not be where this guy is coming from, but a sport so violent that it cuts years off a person's life and can make those years painful and debilitating is going to make some people decide to go elsewhere to earn their living.

Good point.

I don't see why people can't understand this. You can't cruise through training camp at DL. If you're not getting it done, or your body parts aren't responding it's time to call it a day. This ain't ping pong.

Of course it's better when it happens to the Colts. I don't know if this guy's any good, but they usually don't have a lot of quality reserves on the DL.

RayClay · 07-29-2008, 12:53 PM

Ooooh 3rd rounder. That's got to hurt given their aversion to paying linemen other than pass rush specialists.

***Rob0729*** · 07-29-2008, 12:54 PM

The Colts' offseason and preseason so far has turned into a disaster. Usually teams do one of two things - rally around the team and exceed expectations or derail into disaster. Unfortunately for the Colts, most teams take the latter path.

I said a long time ago that I thought this would be the year the Jags overtake the Colts for the division. I am starting to feel really confident about that prediction.

PATRIOTSFANINPA · 07-29-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Deus Irae

Shockingly enough, not everyone views suffering crippling blows on a weekly basis for 20 weeks a year as a great way of life.

First of all I am sure he knew what the game involved especially since he was at the top of his game in College and I am sure he had hard hits many times over those years and besides,he wanted to be drafted.

Second of all, I think even though these guys take poundings week after week,they are getting VERY highly paid to do so - They are not exactly making $9 a hour you know and some of these young guys have not even had enough time in the league to be able to say I can't take it,they just ***** out and back away without at least trying it for 3 years or so.

I know if some team offered me a 1 month NFL prove it-type contract at about a rate of $100,000,I'm there,even if I know I may get my ass wiped out.

If you want to be drafted in the big leagues you better have the balls to be ready for the tough hits or back out BEFORE the draft and sell shoes at the local mall.

Another thing is I am sure he was not even in too many games in 2007 to say he can't handle it,other than practice and TC experience last year.

PonyExpress · 07-29-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KontradictioN

Pony, I've been reading your posts for the last couple of days. To say the least, I don't think you're exhibiting the kind of Quiet Strength that Tony Dungy is talking about.

I'll take that as a compliment.

workhorse · 07-29-2008, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Keegs

well i forget what the hell i was watching (most likely something on NFLN)... and they were talking about how certain players love football, and how certain players are good and just don't care about the game as much. They do it because they can.

That has got to be weird.

That's the part that I find weird too. It's like people being an accountant because they are good with numbers, they don't really care to sit at a desk all day, but it pays the bills.

The fact that it's a "game" and they get paid big bucks takes it out of the normal job thought process for most.

I get the injury risk and the life after situation, but it sounds like this guy just didn't have the fire to play football. He was the last of the Colts draft picks to sign last year because he wasn't certain that he wanted to play in the NFL.

***Deus Irae*** · 07-29-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA

First of all I am sure he knew what the game involved especially since he was at the top of his game in College and I am sure he had hard hits many times over those years and besides,he wanted to be drafted.

Second of all, I think even though these guys take poundings week after week,they are getting VERY highly paid to do so - They are not exactly making $9 a hour you know and some of these young guys have not even had enough time in the league to be able to say I can't take it,they just ***** out and back away without at least trying it for 3 years or so.

I know if some team offered me a 1 month NFL prove it-type contract at about a rate of $100,000,I'm there,even if I know I may get my ass wiped out.

Some people decide that getting the **** kicked out of them day after day is not what they want out of life, no matter who much money is involved. The evidence seems to show that they are the smart ones:

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A 1994 study of 7,000 former players by the National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health found linemen had a 52 percent greater risk of dying from heart disease than the general population. While U.S. life expectancy is 77.6 years, recent studies suggest the average for NFL players is 55, 52 for linemen.

signbabybrady · 07-29-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729

The Colts' offseason and preseason so far has turned into a disaster. Usually teams do one of two things - rally around the team and exceed expectations or derail into disaster. Unfortunately for the Colts, most teams take the latter path.

I said a long time ago that I thought this would be the year the Jags overtake the Colts for the division. I am starting to feel really confident about that prediction.

nothing against your prediction but one linemen retires and that makes you feel really confident about yuor prediction????

I would wait until some games are played before you sway your confidence on the prediction.

I would predict that the Colts win the division still.