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AS i mentioned Rusty, this bill goes after the FOREIGN SITES that we have no way of shutting down under current law. That's what this bill addresses. You have no idea how brazen the russian, chinese and other foreign pirates sites are. They operate with full impunity within their respective countries. We can't do jack and it's hurting our economy.
You are correct in your assertion that we have the ability to go after AMERICAN sites that infringe.
Get a better bill then that addresses the problem specifically, not an open ended vacuum for U.S. politicians that are bought off by corporate donations, that says 'trust us'. Nope.
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Even if the rest of what you say is correct, why do you assume that nobody in the US looks at foreign sites?
Also, why do you assume that these unprecedented new censorship powers will never, ever, ever be extended?
Because that's not the intent of the bill. Why are you assuming that it is? Sure, someone in the future could try to alter the bill to suit their nefarious ends but that's pure speculation.
Let's try to limit this discussion to the facts and not let fear mongering creep in.
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Get a better bill then that addresses the problem specifically, not an open ended vacuum for U.S. politicians that are bought off by corporate donations, that says 'trust us'. Nope.
It does address the problem specifically. You are parroting the fear mongers and special interests on the other site of the conflict.
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Could someone here draft up a form letter I can copy pasta to my state representatives?
This is what I sent to mine:
"I am your constituent, and I urge you to oppose the Stop Online Piracy Act and the PROTECT IP Act. These bills will kill jobs and stifle innovation, undermine cyber security, risk censoring the American Internet, and provide cover for totalitarian regimes that want to undermine Internet freedom abroad."
Lol. That's unfortunately a real example of bad policing and we're working internally to make sure that crap stops.
This bill goes after foreign sites that have no interest in protecting American intellectual property and real goods.
We currently have no legal way to shut these sites down. This bill stops them.
Your internet will not be censored. That's Google and other pirate-huggers trying to confuse the issue.
You are completely wrong on that one.
If this bill is passed, Monster Cable has indicated that it will not hesitate to go after what it considers "rogue sites" such as Craigslist, et al., because those sites resell their products for lower than retail price:
Because that's not the intent of the bill. Why are you assuming that it is? Sure, someone in the future could try to alter the bill to suit their nefarious ends but that's pure speculation.
Let's try to limit this discussion to the facts and not let fear mongering creep in.
INTENT - - I call BS, Rojo.
Get off that. I support the "intent" and your corporation's intellectual property 100%.
Somewhere amongst the 300+ million people in this country is a man or woman who can CLEARLY delineate this bill in writing so we don't have cutesy support for the "INTENT".
It is the English language. It has been spoken and written for hundreds of years.
Because that's not the intent of the bill. Why are you assuming that it is? Sure, someone in the future could try to alter the bill to suit their nefarious ends but that's pure speculation.
Let's try to limit this discussion to the facts and not let fear mongering creep in.
In contrast to you're 'all is well, nothing to see here, just move along' agenda?
Lol. That's unfortunately a real example of bad policing and we're working internally to make sure that crap stops.
This bill goes after foreign sites that have no interest in protecting American intellectual property and real goods.
We currently have no legal way to shut these sites down. This bill stops them.
Your internet will not be censored. That's Google and other pirate-huggers trying to confuse the issue.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. The overseas sites are a big issue, and now with private domain registrations it makes it even tougher to contact site owners when it comes to copyright issues. So I agree completely that something needs to be done in order to keep this from continuing, along with the continued piracy issues. It's been a big problem for a long time, and I'm absolutely behind a law to make sure it can't continue.
My concern is with the way the language is written that it makes it too easy for copyright claims to cause a site like this one to be shut down without the ability to properly deal with it. I think that bill is a good start, but it needs to be written better to correctly target the problem they're trying to address.
ALSO - Please don't attack rojo8401. The point is to try and keep this thread on the main topic and discuss it rationally. I think we're all for stopping infringement and copyright, piracy issues. But this bill is unfortunately simply not targeted enough to correctly address it without potentially causing a problem for sites like this one.
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Get a better bill then that addresses the problem specifically, not an open ended vacuum for U.S. politicians that are bought off by corporate donations, that says 'trust us'. Nope.
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