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Moss '07-09 or Gronk right now: which player is/was more valuable to the offense?
I've been saying for a while that I think Gronkowski is more valuable than Moss (yes, even Moss in '07!) because he improves the running game in addition to opening up the field with double teams. I also think he is more of an emotional leader on the field. I am curious, which player do you think is/was more instrumental to the Pats offense? If Gronk were to go down, how deep would this ship sink compared to if Moss had been injured?
This isn't to say Welker isn't as valuable as either one of them, but that's another discussion.
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Re: Moss '07-09 or Gronk right now: which player is/was more valuable to the offense?
Gronk was more productive on Saturday night than any playoff game by Moss. I would go with him because Moss disapeared in the playoffs for the most part and that is when you need your big play guys the most.
Re: Moss '07-09 or Gronk right now: which player is/was more valuable to the offense?
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Originally Posted by PatriotsReign
When I was a kid, my buddies would ask me, "Who do you think is the most powerful, superman or mighty mouse?"
And I always told them you can't compare different species of animals. Which is my point in comparing Moss and the Gronk.
What the heck are you talking about?!? Everyone knows pound for pound, Might Mouse is more powerful. Superman gotta be about 200lbs while Might Mouse is only a few ounces. No contest.
Re: Moss '07-09 or Gronk right now: which player is/was more valuable to the offense?
I never thought I would see a skill player bring the kind of edge Randy did to the offense.
This is a completely different kind of edge, but at the end of the day, Gronk can contribute a lot more to the offense than Randy can. The days of "doubling Randy and coming down on Welker and we're done" are over. No more drive-killing low-percentage deep shots.
I'm really not trying to take anything away from Randy and how enjoyable it was to watch him play in his prime. But if I had to choose where I'd rather put $10 million a year at this point, it wouldn't even be a discussion.
I swear, the catch Gronk had in the corner of the end zone on Saturday may be the most athletic thing I've ever seen from someone that big. Even if he had eventually lost possession, it still would have been incredible how quickly he tipped and snagged the ball in mid-air.
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What the heck are you talking about?!? Everyone knows pound for pound, Might Mouse is more powerful. Superman gotta be about 200lbs while Might Mouse is only a few ounces. No contest.
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Re: Moss '07-09 or Gronk right now: which player is/was more valuable to the offense?
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Originally Posted by tobias funke
I never thought I would see a skill player bring the kind of edge Randy did to the offense.
This is a completely different kind of edge, but at the end of the day, Gronk can contribute a lot more to the offense than Randy can. The days of "doubling Randy and coming down on Welker and we're done" are over. No more drive-killing low-percentage deep shots.
I'm really not trying to take anything away from Randy and how enjoyable it was to watch him play in his prime. But if I had to choose where I'd rather put $10 million a year at this point, it wouldn't even be a discussion.
I swear, the catch Gronk had in the corner of the end zone on Saturday may be the most athletic thing I've ever seen from someone that big. Even if he had eventually lost possession, it still would have been incredible how quickly he tipped and snagged the ball in mid-air.
I agree with every word you have said.
For the most part, I don't totally blame Randy for being shut out in the playoffs as it went like you said. Defenses made it a priority to take Moss away from Brady and they bracketed WW in the middle of the field 5-15 yards in.
As long as the Pats have WW AND AH, Gronk will put up the numbers.
The fact that hes only 22 is frightening- for everyone else.
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Re: Moss '07-09 or Gronk right now: which player is/was more valuable to the offense?
I am a HUGE fan of Moss. I typically very defensive when others like pronounce others as being "greater than Moss in his prime."
I, however, was thinking about this very thing the other day though.
Moss' obvious strength over Gronk are that he stretches the field and has the best set of hands in the league.
Gronk, however, makes up for these defeciencies through his strength. He is extremely versatlie in that he is not just a tight end by name, but really does do the blocking aspect well. In addition, but in the passing game you always get the sense that he is not going down on the first hit, or that he will at least 'fall forward' for that extra yard.
Gronk has been nothing short of unbelievable this year. He truly is indefensible.
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