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Old 01-01-2012, 09:07 PM   #21
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They're both average defenses that let up alot of yards and make up for it by creating turnovers. The Patriots do it with coaching, the Packers do it with superior individual talent.

It would be a fun SB matchup. The NFL would cream themselves.
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Old 01-01-2012, 11:40 PM   #22
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Funny how the packers and pats are both number one seed for the playoffs, futher proves that stats are for losers!
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Hard to believe that a defense that has Charles Woodson,Clay Matthews and B.J. Raji is last in the NFL
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Hard to believe that a defense that has Charles Woodson,Clay Matthews and B.J. Raji is last in the NFL
at least those guys are playmakers. I haven't checked but the Packers have to lead the NFL in turnovers, or at least be near the top.
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at least those guys are playmakers. I haven't checked but the Packers have to lead the NFL in turnovers, or at least be near the top.
Yes, they lead the NFL in turnovers. But they're also the worst in the NFL at forcing punts.

The 2011 Packers defense is exactly the same as the 2010 Pats defense. Bad at yards, the best at turnovers, average at points, and screwed as soon as their opponents stop throwing picks.

Woodson has forced turnovers, but his age is showing in coverage. Matthews wasn't nearly the playmaker that he's been in recent seasons. Ninkovich ended up with a half sack more than Matthews, for goodness sakes. And Raji was horrific this season. But thanks to injuries, they didn't really have any other choice but to keep using him. Name any one of the Packers' defenders (perhaps other than Bishop, I suppose), and that player wasn't nearly as good as you probably think he was.
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They have playmakers, I'd count on them come playoff time. Don't tell me you'd take the Pats defense over theres.
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Thank Matthew Stanford.

Also, Matthew has now thrown for above 5,000 yards.
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i love it that the packers have the worst defense. espn may just implode in on itself. i might watch those idiots now. this should be fun.
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i love it that the packers have the worst defense. espn may just implode in on itself. i might watch those idiots now. this should be fun.
This. WTG Packers! Got yourself the "worst defense in the NFL award" while going 15-1 and you unveiled your secret weapon, Matt Flynn! May the NFC tremble before him.
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season's not over. Patriots could be one and done while the Packers have playoff success... who would have the worst defense then?

I really don't get why people keep trying to defend the Pats D by implying they're not awful... because they ARE
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