Gronk 3 TD's Away from Tying Tight End TD Record - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

***BradyFTW!*** · 11-22-2011, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSolderKing

He will SHATTER that record... it won't be to the degree of Devin Hester's annihilation of KR and PR records(best return man ever), but GRONK is amazing at TE both blocking and catching. I can draw similar comparrisons w/ GRONK if he like hester did/does keep up his/ (their) Dominance they both are shoe in HOF guys

when one breaks a Mike Ditka TE record you know you have somebody real special.

EXTEND THE BEAST 6 YRS WOULD BE NICE we have him for 2 more.... so the ext would be an added 5 yrs

sign him sooner rather than later.

he will be a STEAL when the future cap grows

even w/ Life after Brady... we still need the GRONK

or will they make him play for his $$$ the next 2 years and then play TAG? I hope not

TFB needs a BIG pay cut if he wants GRONK

I'll get laughed ay for proposing this, but IDC get this done at end of the season.

I understand we have him CHEAP for the next 2 years... but down the road he will cost HUGE$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ if we fail to extend him ASAP. The cap will grow and his contract won't be HUGE 3-4 years in after he signs it. Does this move hurt us financially in the next 2 years (yes). IT, however will pay dividends when the CAP # GROWS Significanty

Going to have to respectfully disagree with you there. I'd be shocked if he's extended in the next year, and I have no real problem with the thought that he won't be. With the franchise tag on TEs being as low as it is, the Pats have a ton of leverage in any future contract negotiations. Eventually they'll have to pay the man, but there's no reason to do that before they have to, especially with the likes of Welker, Mayo, and Vollmer coming up.

***Patjew*** · 11-22-2011, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BradyFTW!

You must live a very, very miserable life. I'm all for realism, but I've honestly never once seen you post a positive sentiment on this message board. Where there's nothing negative to say, you invent something (like that thread where you repeatedly asserted that Brian Waters is terrible). Do you get off on this crap, or can you just not help it?

He's that old miserable bastard NEPat, right?

Jared · 11-22-2011, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BradyFTW!

Eventually they'll have to pay the man, but there's no reason to do that before they have to, especially with the likes of Welker, Mayo, and Vollmer coming up.

Luckily we only have a few high priced guys that we'll need to pay to keep around.

However when Brady is on the back nine of his career, I want an All Pro safety blanket in Gronkowski in his prime to keep Brady happy.

***Brady_to_Moss*** · 11-22-2011, 10:06 PM

Gronk is superman...no question about it

grandpajim · 11-22-2011, 11:39 PM

While Gronk's physical skills are amazing and its fun to imagine what he can acomplish as a Pat, for me the best part of Gronk is his attitude.
Starting with his joy on stage at the draft, this kid is having a total blast.
Complete opposite from many head-case athlets.
GO PATS!! GO GRONK!!!

randomk1 · 11-23-2011, 12:09 AM

Gronk has become one of the biggest mismatches and most complete players at any position in just his 2nd season.

The only thing that i see stopping this guy are injuries and he does take alot of punishment.

TBradyOwnsYou · 11-23-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CanadianPat'sFan

I totally agree but the two stats that jump out at me are the 20 TDs in his first 25 games in the NFL. I am not a stat guy at all but I doubt anyone in NFL history WR, RB, TE or heck QB's get 20 TD in their first 25 games.

TE, no (obviously)
QB, Mark Sanchez had 20 passing (and 3 rushing) TDs in his first 25 games to give you an idea of the level of QB that can easily attain this performance.
WR, Randy Moss off the top of my head.
RB, not sure off the top of my head, but I would think there would be a few, specially if you throw in receiving TDs.

Edit: Sanchez: that was in his first 20 games, not 25. So ya, point remains for QBs

Sicilian · 11-23-2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TBradyOwnsYou

TE, no (obviously)
QB, Mark Sanchez had 20 passing (and 3 rushing) TDs in his first 25 games to give you an idea of the level of QB that can easily attain this performance.
WR, Randy Moss off the top of my head.
RB, not sure off the top of my head, but I would think there would be a few, specially if you throw in receiving TDs.

Clinton Portis had 29 TD's in 29 games over his first two seasons with Denver. I'm assuming at least 20 of those came in the first 25.

For a TE though, it's insanity, especially one who is also so good at blocking.

TBradyOwnsYou · 11-23-2011, 11:18 AM

Portis has 20 rush (+2 receiving) in his first 25, good call

***ctpatsfan77*** · 11-23-2011, 11:55 AM

Post-merger, a total of FORTY NFL players, including GRONK, have 20 TDs in their first two seasons, according to Pro-Football-Reference.

Only FIVE have 20 receiving TDs in their first two seasons:

1. Randy Moss (MIN, 1998-99), 28 receiving TDs
2t. John Jefferson (SD, 1978-79), 23 TDs
2t. Daryl Turner (SEA, 1984-85), 23 TDs
4. Louis Lipps (PIT, 1984-85), 21 TDs
5. GRONK (NE, 2010-11), 20 TDs