Former Patriot Chad Eaton Talks About Belichick's Methods To Stir Things Up - Page 3 - New England Patriots Forums

***DarrylS*** · 11-04-2011, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BradyFTW!

Considering that nobody cared when it was revealed that actual bounties were being placed on players in actual games, I don't foresee anyone caring too much about this.

Neither do I, but Florio is having a slow controversy day.. so he pulls up some crap about Belichick to get 'em salivating.

naF staP · 11-04-2011, 11:44 AM

Thats old school! I'm sure it has happened a lot, especially back in the day. As already mentioned Rex Ryan recently did this old school tactic on hard knocks. Nothing wrong with it, imo.

***MoLewisrocks*** · 11-04-2011, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729

One thing brought up in the comments on PFT that I didn't think of is that if Eaton was a practice squad player, Belichick did absolutely nothing wrong. There are no rules about how much you can pay a practice squad player other than a minimum. His salary didn't count against the cap either. It might have violated the spirit of the rules in some way, but the actually rules pretty much doesn't prohibit it as far as I can tell.

PS salaries do count against the cap. But that's for what the team pays you do on the playing field, not something non football related on the practice field. And probably not for something coaches do with personal funds. Not to mention the salary cap didn't commence until 1994, Bill's second to last season in Cleveland. And I believe the folks in Denver would attest that there was some confusion at the outset of the cap as to just what it covered...

***Wolfpack*** · 11-04-2011, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Gumby

These guys are such morons. The salary cap only counts the top 45. And certainly not to a PS player.

maybe there is a tax evasion charge but that would be on the receiver of the cash not the payer.

That was the exact same thing I was thinking. I hate to say this but the fact that salary cap ramifications were mentioned in the article shows me that Florio is not ready for primetime. Anyone who thinks that this could affect the salary cap just does not know how the salary-cap operates so unless Belichick slipped Eatin an extra hundred grand, it's just not a salary-cap problem.

***MoLewisrocks*** · 11-04-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfpack

That was the exact same thing I was thinking. I hate to say this but the fact that salary cap ramifications were mentioned in the article shows me that Florio is not ready for primetime. Anyone who thinks that this could affect the salary cap just does not know how the salary-cap operates so unless Belichick slipped Eatin an extra hundred grand, it's just not a salary-cap problem.

You were thinking wrong and apparently don't know how the salary cap operates.

Everything counts in season including PS. Only top 51 count in pre season.

That said, the only time this could have happened is in 1995, the year Eaton was drafted and was apparently on the Cleveland PS. It was the second year of the NFL salary cap and I doubt many people in the league were entirely sure what counted back then.

***Wolfpack*** · 11-04-2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks

PS salaries do count against the cap. But that's for what the team pays you do on the playing field, not something non football related on the practice field. And probably not for something coaches do with personal funds. Not to mention the salary cap didn't commence until 1994, Bill's second to last season in Cleveland. And I believe the folks in Denver would attest that there was some confusion at the outset of the cap as to just what it covered...

Well I stand corrected but I have to say here that I don't think that coaches can pay players with their personal funds because what would stop a coach from getting a huge salary from a team and then paying a player a little extra from his "personal" money?

Now I highly doubt an extra c-note would push Cleveland over the cap so I'm not sure this is really a controversy.

Mainefan · 11-04-2011, 12:33 PM

I tried my very best to give a damn about this. Failed. Oh well.

Danny · 11-04-2011, 12:55 PM

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Giving extra cash to players raises the specter of potential salary-cap violations.

Classic Mike Florio.

Biggest douchebag in media history. **** him.

signbabybrady · 11-04-2011, 12:55 PM

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But any hint of a potential rules violation by the Patriots and/or Belichick is sure to get PFT Planet’s juices flowing on a fairly slow Friday morning, regardless of whether any, some, or all of the other 31 coaches were doing the same thing.

Did he really just write this? He basically is saying yes I do have a vendetta against the Patriots. I know my revelation is no more newsworthy than his but he gets paid to do it I dont.

Oh and to the notion that this could be salary cap violation. I think that point would be made mute by the fact it was a Practice Squad player as I dont think they count against the cap.

fnordcircle · 11-04-2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RayClay

Isn't this a very old story?

Yes. Or it's another incident of the same type.

Either way I don't care.