AndyJohnson

We are approaching the point where Tom Brady will have as many games started and passes thrown as Joe Montana. Here is hiow they compare at this point, all facts, no opinion.

CAREER STATS

Brady
150 starts 116-34 w/l 3180/4982 63.8% 37105 YDS 7.4/att 279/111 TD/Int 95.7QB rating
Montana
164 starts 117-47 w/l 3409/5391 63.2% 40551 YDS 7.5/att 273/139
TD/Int 92.3 QB rating

PLAYOFFS
Brady 14-5 3 SB Trophies
19 games 62.2% 4407 yds 30/16 TDInt 85.7rating
Montana 17-8 4 SB Trophies
25 games 62.7% 5772 yds 45/21 TDInt 95.6rating

By the end of this season they will be within 5 career starts and about 100 pass attempts. Depending upon the post season, the primary factor separating these 2 may be David Tyrees head.

andrewgarrr

A 4th SB for Brady will cement his place as a top three QB of all time beyond any argument.

The 4th one will be Brady's team.

AndyJohnson

I think he is already top 3, who would you have ahead of him now?
I think the 4th = GOAT.
I guess no one wants to discuss this and interupt the *****fest.

BradyManny

There's no doubt to me that Brady is the GOAT (if such a thing can be claimed, and exists - these debates might be fruitless given how the game has changed) and better than Montana.

Which makes it all the more frustrating he's just a freakish hail mary player to Tyree away from that being universally recognized. 4 rings and 3 SB MVPs to add to 2 MVPs would be something no one could debate with.

It makes it all the more frustrating that we've blown chances at cementing this team's legacy multiple times - to connect it to another thread.

ivanvamp

In all honesty, the Pats *SHOULD* have won SB titles in 2006 and 2007. Losing that 2006 game to the Colts was just the worst thing...blowing a big lead and coming up short in the end. They would have crushed that Bears team that year. And obviously, 2007...I mean, not just the Tyree catch, but the 3 non-holding calls on that play alone, the Asante almost pick, and even on 4th down earlier in the drive Jacobs gets a first down by about 3 inches....good grief.

But woulda shoulda coulda. When all is said and done, we'll look back on the career of Tom Brady and - without any question whatsoever - call him a top 3 QB of all time. Minimum. He still has a chance to cement the #1 spot, but in the eyes of some he's not there yet, and I understand that.

randomk1

Well...had Brady won SB42 he would be the GOAT and remembered for that last drive he made.

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BradyManny

I agree completely. Which to tie it back to your thread - if Brady & Belichick leave five years from now without another ring to cement their status, and without them the Pats don't win a Super Bowl again in our lifetimes, how much more painful will those missed opportunities feel?

randomk1

Alot of people will disagree with that. The main reason for it being spygate.

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Uncle Rico

A few things that jump out to me about Montana:
- Regular season stats over his career hold up pretty well when you consider different eras. He and Walsh (and Rice et al) were the right combination at the right time.
- So, wait, Montana lost eight playoff games? We all know he's 4-0 in Super Bowls, so that means Montana-led teams that made the playoffs were 4 for 12 in making it to the Super Bowl, compared to 4 for 8 for Brady. Can't argue with Montana's place as the best Super Bowl QB ever, but the notion that he never lost a big game (such as playoffs) seems not quite accurate.
- A further look at Montana in the post-season: He had 11 TDs and 0 picks in the 4 SBs, the stuff of legends. But that leaves him with 34 TDs and 21 INTs in his other 21 playoff games. Still very good ( see Brady's stats in 19 games), but not as perfect as some would say.

Bottom line for me is that Montana's perfection in Super Bowls was phenomenal and that keeps him a notch above TFB. But he wasn't a perfect post-season QB. One more ring for Brady pulls him even and two put him at the top.

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DaBronxPats14

That gives all media & haters time to pick apart why Brady isn't GOAT but in those 5 Yrs we MUST see how Rodgers and Ben Rothsss fair.