BelichickFan

Yeah, yeah, yeah Seeing him on the field reinforces it somewhat

bradmahn

I believe it was one of their minor league managers who said this, but supposedly Buccholz can outrun Ellsbury. Ellsbury has said he can run a 4.2 forty.

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ctpatsfan77

Not to drag this too far OT, but I believe that (A) Buchholz's been timed at 4.32, and (B) Buchholz and Ellsbury were specifically forbidden from racing one another, out of fear that they might injure themselves in the process.

Needless to say, it's a bit funny to think "TD, Buchholz" or "TD, Ellsbury", or, for that matter, Brady catching for a no-hitter.

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tombonneau

I agree. For some reason, Slater is the pick that intrigues me most. I guess because it was so out of nowhere. Hopefully he's the new Troy Brown jack-of-all-trades.

Peachhead

Ah, good stuff. Man, I am so ready to get back to following camp and talking football.

captain stone

But if Slater can't return KOs, then he'll be another wasted draft pick. I don't understand why the FO would give away its 7th-rounder to move up in the 5th round to take a guy who would almost certainly have been available as a UDFA. After all, Larry Izzo has been one of the better STers over the last dozen years, and he went undrafted.

And comparing him with Troy Brown does a great disservive to Troy, one of the all-time Patriots and a highly productive, if under-recognized, WR during his time at Marshall.

And let's hope that the drops suffered by Slater, Wilhite and Sam Aiken during yesterday's session are just aberrations, and not the continuations of trends already established by those three at their previous destinations.

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RayClay

Hobson will be the surprise of camp. Not that he should be, but a guy, fairly ready to jump in the position of most need, is being overlooked.

This is not based on personal observation though.

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RayClay

We went after Izzo. He was not undrafted to us.

People need to realize it's situational. A 5th rounder is very unlikely to make the team at most positions. If we pick up a special teams captain, that's a value for a pick that would have been cut for the Jets roster.

Players are not sacks of wheat at a dry goods store.

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DarrylS

Hobson and Williams are intriguing, both are essentially playing for a contract, have played well elsewhere and both have a ton of upside.. Williams has been a guy who if injury free can make a big difference on this team.

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ctpatsfan77

How many return men have significant trouble translating those skills to the NFL? That's one of the last things I'd worry about.

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