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Old 10-11-2011, 05:57 PM   #1
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I went over to the NFL.com stat page for some info go see see if the Pats had relinquished their hold on the 32nd spot in total D, Not to worry, THAT slot's still ours...and could be for a while But I also found some other stuff that you might find interesting. You know, some food for thought.

1. If you needed anymore proof that THIS is not your father's NFL, check this out. The WORST defense, and the 2nd WORST defense, and the 3rd WORST defense were the Pats, Buffalo, and Oakland. The combined win loss record of those 3 teams is 11-4

2. The number 1,2 and 5th ranked pass defenses were the Steelers, SD, and the Jets. Well Brady put up 400+ yds against the Chargers, 300+ yds against the Jets, and the next time that Brady doesn't throw for 300+ yds against the Steelers it will be the first time since 2001. Think about what that tells us about our passing offense

3. It doesn't look like we are going to lose that strangle hold on the 32nd worst pass defense anytime soon. The Cowboys have the 3rd best passing attack in the league

4. The Good News is the Cowboys have the 26th best rushing attack. The bad news is that they have the BEST rush defense in the league Like I said....food for thought.

5. I was surprised to see that the Cowboys ranked 12th among pass defenses, which I thought was better than I expected. However it makes some sense when you remember that they have played the Jets, SF, and Skins, Only Detroit had a semblance of a legitimate passing attack. In fact the Sanchize put up over 300 as well. So much for statistics.

6. We are so ensconced in last place that it might take 3 good games to improve on those rating. But what is interesting to note is that the Pats are now 17th in scoring D. Once again we see how Total Defense stats do NOT reflect the real strength of a defense. And while I'm not saying that 17th is anything to be proud of, its a lot better than 32nd (btw- we'd be ranked as low as 12th if not for the 3 garbage time TDs we gave up)

DISCLAIMER - these stats represent past performance and in no way guarantee future results. This writer is in no way responsible for how Reader may interpret these stats now and into the future. You have been warned.
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3. It doesn't look like we are going to lose that strangle hold on the 32nd worst pass defense anytime soon.
I just want to point out thay the 32nd worst pass defense would be the best!
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I just want to point out thay the 32nd worst pass defense would be the best!
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We're actually 15th in points allowed per game. Dallas has given up 101 in 4 and St. L 113 in 4. So, we're ranked ahead of them too.

It's a pet peeve of mine. I just don't understand why defenses are ranked by yards. That would be like evaluating pitchers by their WHIP instead of ERA. The goal is to not allow points/runs. WHIP and yards are useful tools. But, not as important IMO.
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You know, your user name is sooo wrong. On one hand you have Welker who is a beloved Patriot. On the other, my grandparents (when I was a kid a long time ago) used to torture me by making me watch Lawrence Welk with them.

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what is funny about pats, OAK and buff is that each of those teams has played the other...

and obviously they all had good passing attacks
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The notion that the Pats are the 32nd "worst" ~ can I assume you MEANT to say 32nd BEST?? ~ Defense is ALMOST as fundamentally flawed as the notion that we can be expected to REMAIN at our allegedly low level.

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To pretend that YARDS, and not POINTS, determine the outcome of games...is indescribably vapid.

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We are 14th in Points Allowed...and our Defense is coming together NICELY, despite a myriad of injuries.

...As PREDICTED.
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Perhaps it is the way we view success in the NFL.. while the traditional stats have been imprinted in our brain.. maybe there needs to be another method that takes into account things like wins...

DVOA currently ranks us as 29th in Defense... #1 in offense.

DVOA currently ranks Dallas as 7th in Defense... # 19 in offense.

The worse defensive teams are Miami, Tampa and Carolina..
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Perhaps it is the way we view success in the NFL.. while the traditional stats have been imprinted in our brain.. maybe there needs to be another method that takes into account things like wins...

DVOA currently ranks us as 29th in Defense... #1 in offense.

DVOA currently ranks Dallas as 7th in Defense... # 19 in offense.

The worse defensive teams are Miami, Tampa and Carolina..
Too many things affect yardage stats. Playing with a big lead. Don't give up the big play. Bend, but don't break defensive philosophy. That's the key with us. Let's use this scenario as an hypothesis.

Team a - Aggressive like to blitz
Series 1 - 3 and out 8 yards
Series 2 - TD. Safety bites on play action TD 80 yards
Series 3 - Really mad now ..blitz sack.....minus 8 yards

Gave up 80 yards and 7 points

Team b Pats
Series 1 Long drive ends up in FG 61 YARDS
Series 2 Couple of firsts stalls at midfield 28 yards
Series 3 Similiar to drive 2......47 yards but force a turnover

Gave up 126 yards and 3 points

Test Question

Which defense did the better job? Seems pretty obvious to me. The one that gave up 3 points not 7.
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