trustedwithangels

see here...this was on the front page of DIGG tonight...

http://richardovervold.blogspot.com/...r-dollars.html

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IcyPatriot

Senator Pecker should authorize an investigation into why his QB was barfing and saying "no mas" during the game in question.

Frezo

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Frezo

Don't forget Sunday Ticket.

Rob0729

As much as I would love to see other teams to go through what we have the last few months especially teams that were so smug and arrogant about the whole thing, I just want the whole thing to end and be done with.

There is no real need to do an independent investigation either of the Patriots or the entire league. Teams bend and break rules all the time in all sports. If you did an independent investigation of any sport and threw enough money behind the investigation, you could bring down any sport. But is that good for the fans or the game itself?

the taildragger

agreed, but on the other hand a george mitchell style probe into the inner workings of the NFL might be the only thing that restores our reputation at this point.

Goodell continues to assert the Pats are the only team he believes was doing this (a total cop out)...I just think it needs to be spearheaded by a guy who is credible like Patrick Leahy rather than a guy paid by comcast to threaten/fight the NFL.

Rob0729

It really doesn't matter what Goodell says. Half the country feels he took it easy on his friend Bob Kraft and hid other evidence that could sink the Patriots. I don't think Goodell's comments have any bearing because most people are either firmly entrenched in the NFL cover up or NFL persecution camp with few in between.

I don't think anything can restore the Patriots reputation other than time. Just because other teams get caught cheating probably won't stop the hatred of the Patriots or people's beliefs that there needs to be an asterick next to the Patriots Super Bowl wins. If Spygate happened to a team like the Cardinals, it would have been forgotten in October of last year. People just don't like Belichick or the Patriots.

Truck

I agree with this.

If Specter or Congress really wants to know the truth about cheating, camera use, spying;

All they have to do is get ex coaches to testify under oath. Ex coaches have no reason to tell the truth to a reporter; but they also have no reason to lie under oath (unlike current baseball players who have an image and money at stake in the steriods hearings)

fgssand

I happen to think that evidence leaked of a few other teams doing basically the same damn thing (or worse) would go a long way to ending this entire matter.

That, along with solid football explanations of exactly what this scouting information really amounts too (not much as a matter of fact).

Without both of those things happening, the issue will never be put in the proper perspective.

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Marko

I've been saying this for awhile. Goodell has to stop thinking that hiding the real truth protests the league's crediility. This is one of those cases where showing the real gamesmanship of the game would help the credibility.