bakes781

it was also the 1st year Brady had a top flight WR to throw to though.

KontradictioN

Why do you guys keep posting these articles? They're all the same.

Article: Pats cheated.
us: it wasn't cheating because [enter reason 1] and [enter reason 2]

Article: Goodell let Pats off light.
us: We never deserved the loss of a first rounder in the first place.

Rinse and repeat. If these articles annoy you so much, then don't pay attention to them. Besides, they largely say the same, wrong stuff over and over and over again. I agree that we got the **** end of the stick when it comes to Spygate, but whining over some idiot's articles that his Jet fan bosses told him to write to stir things up doesn't change anything.

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BelichickFan

And it was the first time he put up huge numbers. Brady was a winner with mediocre numbers with his other WR and the camera. He had the best season ever for a QB with better WR and no camera.

bakes781

KontradictioN if you don't like reading about it start your own thread & stop bumping this one up.

I'm just playing the role of a Jets fan here lol

Obviously I don't think the cameras did much if any good. And I think it's pretty clear BB didn't care about getting caught because he trully didn't believe he was breaking any rules. Other fans can say that's BS, but when you have opposing coaches waving into the camera I think it's safe to say this was done in plain sight.

BelichickFan

Yeah I know - still can't let that argument sit there unchallenged though

Scottso

Not cheating? Then what the hell is it? Thats one of the stupidest things I've read in a long time.

bakes781

You understand that stealing signals is allowed under the current rules yes? As is videotaping from specific vantage points?

Fixit

My guess is that no, he doesn't.

Scottso

Yeah it did prove it, the Pats have been doing this since at least 2000. So the fact that they didn't tape last year, does nothing to dismiss the fact that they had archives of coaches signals. The knowledge they gained over all of those years was still available to them all of last season. Let me ask you a question, if the camera didn't help them then why would they take the risk at doing it. There is no logical answer to that that you can give me. Especially when you consider that the league sent a memo to all teams before the start of the 07 season that reiterated that stealing signals would not be tolerated. Yet, they still felt the need to do it, because it is beneficial to the organizations success. Call a spade a spade man!

BelichickFan

Correct, it's not cheating because the activity of stealing signs is 100% legal. We just did it in an manner which isn't allowed.