DonBlackmon55

Good analysis. Seymour is on pace for 14 sacks this year.

New England Patriots prepare for Oakland Raiders and Richard Seymour - ESPN Boston

BSR

I hated when they traded Seymour because I always felt as if he was the most important part of the D. However, I was willing to take a wait and see approach. So far we have definitely been on the short end of the deal but it all depends in the long run on how Nate turns out. Still it would have been nice to have Richard around for the past few years. I really wonder how last year would have turned out if we had him.

Froob

Mark Anderson is on pace for 10 sacks and Brady is on pace for 58 touchdowns and 7077 yards. 3 games is a really small sample. I really don't think Seymour would re-sign he had beef with Belichick supposedly about coming out on 3rd down or something like that. And he wanted BIG money. If he becomes a free agent he isn't resigning here. Seymour is a great player and all but, I still believe trading him was the best option. It comes down to this, with or without seymour they don't win the super bowl in 09. Only other option I see is maybe they sign vince earlier and franchise tag seymour last year.

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condon84

We took an L on this. No matter how good Solder becomes, Seymour would have made a huge difference on our defense last year. No way the Jets go marching down the field with Seymour in our lineup.

Last year should have been the 4th ring for our team and we'd be in a better position this year for a 5th.

sbpatfan

It was a good trade. They didn't have the money to keep him and Seymour wasn't the missing link in 2009. That team wasn't going anywhere.

satz

This has to go down as a bad trade. Nothing to do with solder we always could traded up to get him with all the bust 3rd and 2nd we blew, after seymour left we lost attitude in the DL. He used to be a bad az and bully on the dline.He is not only tough but someone who other teams OL do not push around.I remember so many games he was a nightmare due to his mental makeup.

We still are looking for attitude on the DL. shawn ellis has other than that nothing.ellis is too new. Every good DL in the league has attitude and a bad mother in the middle pushing and shoving , seymour was our instigator.

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Rob0729

Several things:

1.) As pointed out in the article, there was a good chance that Seymour would have left after the 2009 season because the Pats weren't going to be able or not willing to pay both him and Wilfork. So comparing what he could have done over the last two years might not be a fair comparison in evaluating the trade because he might have been gone in 2010 no matter if he was traded or not.
2.) Seymour isn't likely to get 14 sacks or even double digit sacks. He got two sacks vs. the Broncos who are in the top 10 in sacks allowed. He was also sacked 5 times in that game. So the Broncos just had troubles with protection that game. In the last two games, he has had 0.5 sacks coming against the Jets who are the eight most sacked team in the league.

Deus Irae

Lousy trade then

Lousy trade now

The excuses by those trying to defend it have never held up, and they still don't


Not much more to say on the subject, really

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sbpatfan

If you keep Seymour to 2010, whose contract do you want to rip up? Brady's or Wilfork's?

Rob0729

Really? So the Pats don't trade him, they franchise Wilfork, and Seymour leaves in free agency and plays for another team last year; he would have made a difference on the Pats defense last year? So the Pats would have won the Super Bowl if he was playing for the Jets last year instead of the Raiders?

Sorry, people forget that that if the Pats didn't trade him, there was at least a decent chance he would have only stuck around one more year and been gone before last season. The Pats weren't likely to pay him last year and he would have gotten a Julius Peppers type of deal on the free market.