BlitzFritz

First of all, I have season tix in the corner endzone, and we get pretty rowdy and loud there.

However, I attended the Florida State / Oklahoma game last night in Tallahassee, and that was BY FAR the LOUDEST outdoor crowd I have experienced. My ears are slightly deafened this morning (as I hustle to fly back for the Pats game today). The crowd was filled with men, woman and children, all RIVETED and STANDING for EVERY PLAY (alum side no less), screaming and doing the chop for 3.5 HOURS. I am pretty sure it was hard for Landry Jones the OK QB to hear most of the time.

I am told these big time college games are all like that.

My point - NFL crowds suck by comparison.

I guess this is due to a) corporate sections of dead wood pink hat, casual viewers, b) multi tiered seating (vs a single bowl where everyone is in one continuous section and if the front row stands up, the whole stadium stands up).

Am I right?

Are there really any NFL stadiums that rock like last night? What makes the difference?

In some small way, it made me sad

-- FRITZ

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Halifax_Pats_Fan

Don't make me have to send some Maritimer beer down there!!

All I know is that those games were played in Halifax I would be at every friggin one loud and proud.

This organization is committed to excellence, from the top down through to the coaching staff and the leaders on the team.

I certainly know most of us all know what we got going on here for at least the next five years hopefully...never take things for granted cause tomorrow we could be in the basement.

You should be excited when they make a play!

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shmessy

It's the tax system.

Corporate tax deductions for entertainment and dining is why NFL stadiums look so different from yesteryear.

Look at how different Schaeffer/Sullivan/Foxboro Stadium was to Gillette. Less glass boxes, one contiguous bowl. Look around at all the other stadiums built in the past 15 years in the NFL. They are movie cinemas compared to old stadiums. With separate entrances, separate concessions, there simply isn't the "We're all in this together" aspect of the old stadiums.

Looking at Jerry Jones' hermetically sealed house of glass, I can see a future where the players may play outside, but the fans all sit behind glass, like at Jai Alai or a dog racing track.

15-20,000 folks at the game today are there "on business" ( ) and may need a program to know who Wes Welker is.

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NEP4Life

Since Brady's always complaining about the lack of crowd noise, he should sponsor a section, dedicated specifically to making as much noise as possible. It just needs a catchy name.

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Tunescribe

Gillette CAN get loud but the stadium design is so open sound tends to disperse sound quickly. Noise was much more focused in the old Foxboro Stadium.

Cue the pink hat/corporate shill/golf buddy crowd complainers.

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Froob

We saw how loud it can be when the fans are pumped last year vs the jets. That was CRAZY . The stadium design is not the only reason. It would help if they had a stadium designed like the seahawks qwest field but Gillette can get loud. I know your at all the games but, it doesn't seem like fans are as rabid as say chiefs or seahawks fans. And I know people will hate me for this but Jets fans get pretty loud down there don't know about their stadium structure though. Just my 2 cents.

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NEP4Life

Kraft signed off on the stadium design; Brady should take some of his complaints about lack of noise to him.

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patfanken

Shmessy, hit one aspect of the lack of noise perfectly. The other is that the stadium was build to give the customer a more open feel. I've always thought that the Pats should add about 7-10,000 more seats that would fill in some of that space, add noise, revenue, and atmosphere. The demand it there Bob. Get it going.

Tunescribe

I've addressed this issue too many times to count. I've been to all but three Pats home games in the past 18 years plus games at many other stadiums (including Seattle and the new Giants Stadium) and can tell you that stadium design -- NOT the crowd itself -- is the primary factor determining crowd noise.

Further to this point: I was on the field during team intros for this season's first preseason game and was struck by how faint the PA sounded at field level when they were playing Ozzy's "Crazy Train." In the stands it's loud. Gillette is beautiful and functional but misses the acoustic advantages of an enclosed bowl.

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PatsDeb

Have to agree with Tune. I got to lots of games (both in the new stadium and at the old) and a lot of the problem is with the stadium, not the crowd. We are beating a dead horse, however, as those who watch on TV don't hear what they hear from other crowds.

I do my part every game, as does Tune and lots of other fans. Nothing else we can do.