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Is There Too Much Roster Turnover in New England?
By: Derek Havens

With 16 new faces on the Patriots roster since last season, I am left question if there is too much roster turnover in New England. ...

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bagwell368

Well, I know one thing - the author needs a copy editor.

FA Vets might be new to the Pats, but not the NFL.

Rookies that won't play a lot until they are ready/needed can't be seen as a major problem.

So, somehow the author would be happier if we had 5 more drafted players left. Well we would if BB hadn't managed the cap so well, and had such a stuffed roster.

Yawn....

Urgent

15 new players is pretty normal.

2011 - 15
2010 - 15
2009 - 25
2008 - 15
2007 - 11
2006 - 14

Nothing strange going on.

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BlueThunder

The new CBA negotiations resulted in no mini camps for the rookies.....that along with BB's new Defensive philosophy ( he denies it, but it's pretty obvious) resulted in signing vets that could be plugged into the D without alot of babysitting....

The rookies he did pick won't take as long to integrate ...Vereen and Ridley ie.......

Dowling may or may not be thrown into the fire early depending on his progress as seen by BB and the coaches.....

There is nothing that indicates BB is out of whack with his moves......some were unexpected, but not knowing the internal workings...only the staff knows the true reasons players were let go.....

In BB we Trust

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Patriot_in_NY

Yeah......... it would really help if the authors of these articles did a little research beyond "eyeball mathematics" before putting out this stuff. This year is fairly typical, with our customary surprise cuts, but nothing out of the ordinary. It doesn't seem out of the ordinary and the above stats bare that out.

In fact, if you pay attention, the moves seem to make sense in a larger picture. There were some obvious deficiencies last year on defense, and BB understood the changes he needed to make and then went about collecting the players he needed to implement it. That is CLASSIC Bill Belichick.

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JoeSixPat

It's an interesting question - especially since last year was a "rebuilding season" in many of our eyes and of course following a 14-2 rebuilding season Belichick added just as many faces as last season.

The numbers shown by Urgent actually show that 2009 was the "true" rebuilding season, but overall I think Belichick is just always shaking the tree of free agents and rookies to see which apples might fall out of the tree and be a better match for the team and his scheme.

Ultimately there's so many variables to find the "right" players, to shore up positions of injury, retirement, depth etc that Belichick is always tinkering. Each of the players lost requires a case by case analysis of how long they were here to adjust before Belichick gave up on them.

Although Urgent's stats are helpful, it would be more helpful to know how the Pats compare to other players roster turnover. My guess is it would be higher than other teams - primarily because Belichick doesn't think twice about cutting a 1st round pick and keeping a rookie UFA if he thinks the rookie is a better match.

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Lowercaseg

Mike Reiss says that other teams have similar roster turnover -
Counting new faces on Patriots - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

MrNathanDrake

Pats won the SuperBowl in 2001 with a lot of waiver wire players.

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Bring on the 2012 Season

patsfaninpittsburgh

We were too young last year.

The 14-2 record was the product of playing the best. That's very odd for such a young team. The problem with youth is when you don't play your best, it tends to be worse than it is with an older team.

JoeSixPat

Good to know - I'm sure it varies between 10-20 for just about every team

You have to think that about you're going to have about 10 drafted or undrafted rookies make any roster each season alone.

Such guys all made the cut for the roster but all have proven nothing on the field, and are there based largely on youth, and potential (as well as cost savings). There's always going to be a revolving door.

The bottom line is stats aside, the best 53 players make the squad, with some turnover always needed for youth alone. 16 is not a shocking amount.

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