Originally Posted by ctpatsfan77

Umm. . . .
(A) Caserio = 32, O'Brien = 38.
(B) Caserio's years coaching = ~1, O'Brien's years coaching = ~15.

So they did get Josh some veteran help.

Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks

RAC and Charlie were less involved in scheme than the present crew. Bill tapped outside sources for his wrinkles, like Saban before SB 36. What the present crew may lack is fire. But short of tearing his Oline a new one - which he likely would have done... there was nothing schematically Charlie could have done to mitigate their abyssmal performance in this Superbowl. They got run over. We tried screens, they got whacked too. When the opposition is collapsing the pocket and not just rushing from the edges nothing much works. I've seen some say Charlie would have rolled Brady out more. Thing is Tom doesn't like that, it's not his comfort zone, and he was playing with a bad ankle and reportedly through another sports hernia. People forget we only activated 2 TE's, Bill's decision, and apparently neither of them was healthy - and it showed. Faulk was lost for a couple of series with what looked like a hammie. Maroney was returning kicks because of injury - so pounding the rock was never a viable option in the game plan. Besides for those who haven't noticed, he's not Corey Dillon circa 2004. Bill was busy coaching up his front 7 so they wouldn't give up 34. I bet he never imagined Spagnano would get the pressure he did in the re-match, nor did he likely imagine his pro bowl studded OL would have their collective period on the biggest night of the season. You know, the TD pass from Brady to Patton in XXXVI wasn't Charlie's call, it was Bill who changed that call to an out and up based on his earlier observation when the same base call resulted in an incomplete. Maybe Bill's eyes on offense would have helped Josh figure something out, but McDaniels isn't the problem any more than Charlie (or RAC) was in 2002. Pees on the other hand may not even be a stand alone game day DC in Bill's defense. If he were then Bill could have spent most of the second quarter tearing Scarnechia's crew a new one.

And yet in the end we were a couple of plays not made on D away from winning that game. RAC can't make plays for guys either. I think a lot of folks here have selective memory and would benefit from reviewing our performance under Charlie and RAC in the 2003 playoffs entirely and the 2005 Superbowl... There were times in Charlie's tenure when we couldn't make a first down to save our souls, and there were continual calls for his head. Just like at times we couldn't make a late stop on D though our very playoff lives seemed to depend on it. Thankfully we either made just enough plays on one side of the ball or another (or on ST) or our opposition seemingly refused to often after being given given ample opportunity to...to develop this fairy tale fanboy mentality that blames failure to execute on...coordinators. Bill and each of his staffs have always put these players in a position to win (with the possible exception of 2005-06 when they were sorely under manned due to unforseen absences, injuries and defections) when they just do their job and execute the game plan. Defensively execution was inconsistent in the first and fourth quarters vs. the Giants, and on offense the entire Oline was MIA for most of the game. They were overmatched physically and mentally - which makes deviating from a carefully constructed and practiced game plan realistically the last thing likely to succeed. Ergo, the game plan became a battle of wills in which we waited each other out. The real killer in hindsight was probably that first sustained drive by the Giants which took almost 10 minutes off ten clock Cut that TOP in half and/or stop them outside of FG range and...

BTW you just gotta love how Dante gets a lifetime pass when coaching in this game is dissected...LOL

Originally Posted by alvinnf

Oh yeah, the giants just wanted it more. You know the reality is when you score 38 points on someone 4 weeks prior, you should'nt just expect the same looks the same production. Everything the offensive staff or the coaches in general, did in the SB was reactionary, 14 pts. NUFF SAID!!!