Are you anti-Roger Goodell? - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

flasox27 · 03-23-2008, 12:03 PM

I am figuring about the 12th of Never on that one.

BPF · 03-23-2008, 12:23 PM

As a commissioner you must understand that it's human nature to revert to mob rule and injustice so you must be right down the middle. To this point, Goodell has been much too harsh with handing out penalties and suspensions. As with the lengthy player suspensions, the "spygate" penalty was just too harsh which in turn brought undue outrage from all angles. He has made public a matter which should have been handled in house and that my friends is never good. The NFL has big financial hurdles to cross over the next two years and could be facing a lockout, which will cause bad press. So it could be a continuation of bad press for the league. The "spygate" drama though was clearly due to the how the new commissioner handled it and wasn't a good way to start off a new era.

flasox27 · 03-23-2008, 12:38 PM

I find it funny that the only team Goodell has been harsh with is the Pats. Everything else has been swept under the rug ASAP. When is he going to release the findings of who leaked the Pats tape to Fox. LOL

***KontradictioN*** · 03-23-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jcdavey

it's amazing how NE fans of all people could be against him

he's protecting the pats from walsh, or at least trying to (because he's protecting the nfl, all of his decisions are done to protect the nfl from itself, and keep it's #1 spot)

Couldn't have said it better myself.

BSR · 03-23-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jcdavey

it's amazing how NE fans of all people could be against him

he's protecting the pats from walsh, or at least trying to (because he's protecting the nfl, all of his decisions are done to protect the nfl from itself, and keep it's #1 spot)

Here is why I think he is incompetet. He thinks he is protecting the pats and the NFL but all he is really just hanging them out to dry. If he was protecting the pats he would give Walsh an ultimatium and deadline. If he didn't come through by the deadline, declare the matter investigated and closed. Handling it this way does nothing but allow everyone to consider the Pats guilty in the court of public opinion. Your own post shows this as you assume the NFL is "protecting" the pats as if they need protection from anything Walsh has.

The man might be a good lawyer and administrator, but as far as handling a high profile organization like the NFL he is way over his head.

***BradyFTW!*** · 03-23-2008, 02:01 PM

I think he's both incompetent and a blowhard jerk. Basically, I dislike him in every capacity that I can dislike someone that I've never actually met.

miDeuce · 03-23-2008, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BadMoFo

I think he handled our situation as best he could and he's punished others that have been in trouble with the law. We were clearly filming what we were told we couldn't film, and were punished for it.

I do think that he comes down with a heavy hand, but I guess you have to sometimes, especially when you want to set an example. I think he's been harsher with Pac Man Jones than he has been with us. It actually seems like he is trying to soften the blow he laid on us in September.

I totally agree. Goodell has had his work cut out for him early on and it doesn't help having a grandstanding senator sticking his nose into it all. He's said the same thing since this spygate crap started - he punished the Pats, the issue is dead. Now all the Matt Walsh stuff... I think he's done as well as he could've done.

Hardboiled · 03-23-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BadMoFo

I think he handled our situation as best he could ...It actually seems like he is trying to soften the blow he laid on us in September.

Then he didn't handle it well.
If he handled as best he could, there would be no need to soften any blow or backtrack.

BSR · 03-23-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by miDeuce

I totally agree. Goodell has had his work cut out for him early on and it doesn't help having a grandstanding senator sticking his nose into it all. He's said the same thing since this spygate crap started - he punished the Pats, the issue is dead. Now all the Matt Walsh stuff... I think he's done as well as he could've done.

I don't know how you could possibly say that he's done as well as he could've done with any of it. It has been and continues to be a total mess. From the media prespective both spygate I and II have been botched.

Pats726 · 03-23-2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BSR

I don't know how you could possibly say that he's done as well as he could've done with any of it. It has been and continues to be a total mess. From the media prespective both spygate I and II have been botched.

he's really messed this up on every level at every turn....he SHOULD have handled this in house and never turned it into the public spectacle that it became...NEVER sgould have given out such a heavy penalty without explaining it all...going forward he shouldn't have said he was going to be so fair about things, for he has demonstrated the opposite totally..ignoring so many other practices that are ubfir..from tampering to piped in audio to the communications blackout over ride that some teams do. He's basically not recovered from that and looks even sillier with Spector and Walsh... I can not believe how he was voted MOST powerful in sports (after a short run..) ..only that maybe that made his slighty HEAD slightly bigger and more pompous...(if that could be possible..) Correcting the mess now is really hard..can't get the toothpaste back in the tube... Until he actually takes action against another team, it's all UNFAIR...he talks a good game, of fairness..bit that is all..most incompetent idiot to be the head of any league.. Mu hope is he will go down in flames fast before he destroys the league..