cstjohn17

Just a random thought...

• 2006 - Adam V. provides the Colts a new sense of confidence, kicks 5 FGs against the Ravens. His presence on the Colts is more important than actual on field production, at least they don't have Vander ' The Shank' Jerk.
• 2007 - BB sends Adam V. out for a 48 yard FG in the Superbowl. Lack of of confidence in Ghost costs the Patriots.

RayClay

no.

He's only a fg kicker. doesn't play defense.

there is nothing he can possibly do that is worth more than 1 point or three points.

Usually his success is a failure on the part of the team to score a touchdown.

Most pro kickers make 90-100% of the same kicks consistently.

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Deus Irae

Adam V. was kicking inside a dome and still finished under 80% with a long of 39 yards. Gostkowski finished at 87.5 with a long of 45 yards, and was doing it with Gillette as his home stadium.

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tobias funke

Just when you thinks threads can't possibly get any dumber...

dhamz

Since BB had zero confidence in Adam on long FGs his last season in NE, he surely would have had none in SB 42.

Rob0729

1.) Vinatieri didn't provide the Colts with a new sense of confidence. He did play a key role in the Ravens' playoff game, but he did nothing for the Colts' confidence. If one player did anything for their confidence in the playoffs, it was Bob Sanders who returned not Vinatieri. Vinatieri certainly wasn't the reason the Colts overcame a 21-6 halftime deficite over the Patriots.

2.) We do not know why Belichick chose to go for it in the Super Bowl. If you go back and look at Vinatieri's last year with the Patriots, Belichick did do similiar things with Vinatieri. In 2005, Belichick barely even attempted a field goal over 39 yards after week three. Vinatieri was 2 for 6 on field goal attempts over 39 yards (only one was over 49 yards) that year. This year, Vinatieri was 1 for 4 in field goal (if you include playoffs) attempts over 39 yards (and that is in a dome for half the games). Exactly how would Belichick have been more confident in Vinatieri?

Vinatieri is just a kicker. I don't know if Belichick lost confidence im Gostkowski or that Belichick just feels that anything over 40 yards that he is better off going for it. I think blaming the loss of Vinatieri for us not winning Super Bowls either this year or last year is just incorrect.

scout

Do you remember Adam V. missing kicks in any Superbowls, or just remember his game winners?

ScottieC

Yes. Absolutely.

With Adam V. the Offensive line would have played MUCH better in this years Super Bowl and helped keep Brady vertical as opposed to spending the game on his back. No to mention with Adam V., Asante would have caught that ball and Rodney would have been able to knock that ball down from Tyree (sp?).

And as for last years 3rd and 4th qtr. collapse against the Colts, YES YES YES Adam would have made a difference in stopping Peyton.

Adam V. is the greatest footballer of all time, his mere presence is enough to carry a team.

That was a brilliant question and as such I have given brilliant commentary to support it.

Man, I'm sick of this crap. I need for the season to start ASAP.

mojocaster.com

Bingo.

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cstjohn17

Actually rock bottom hits a couple of days after the draft...

Just a random thought, not based in reality. All the stat heads out there missed the point completely. Anyone who has played team sports understands the importance of confidence. Vanderjack was the highest rated kicker in the history of football but does anyone think the Colts felt good running him out there in a clutch situation?

Adam V. won several games for the Colts in 06 (Denver and someone else), this helped them obtain home field advantage. In 2007 he sucked but maybe BB would have had more confidence to kick the FG in the Superbowl.