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scout · 03-04-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LoganMankinsPancakeBlocks

Tom Brady. Trent Edwards. Chad Pennington/Kellen Clemens. John Beck.

'nuff said.

Chad Pennington, noodle arm right? Most everyone on this board disrespects this guy, but all he ever does is give us fits. We knock the Jets starter out after two plays and all Noodle arm does is almost score a victory. Remember stopping him late in the game. If it wasn't for some dumb coaching (taking Chad out for the guy who can't throw) the Pats might have lost that game.
Now the Jets have one of the best left guards in the league to go along with that line. I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss that team.

LoganMankinsPancakeBlocks · 03-04-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by scout

Chad Pennington, noodle arm right? Most everyone on this board disrespects this guy, but all he ever does is give us fits. We knock the Jets starter out after two plays and all Noodle arm does is almost score a victory. Remember stopping him late in the game. If it wasn't for some dumb coaching (taking Chad out for the guy who can't throw) the Pats might have lost that game.
Now the Jets have one of the best left guards in the league to go along with that line. I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss that team.

I respect the hell out of the guy, he's got the heart of a lion, but he's just a very mediocre QB and he doesn't have an NFL arm.

The AFC East is improving, but aside from the Patriots, it's still awful because none of these teams have QB's that would rank in the top 15 (which isn't exactly asking a ton, considering the NFL isn't loaded with superstar QB's at the moment). Barring a Brady injury (knock on wood), the Patriots run away with the division yet again.

DropKick Flutie · 03-04-2008, 05:03 PM

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It's exactly the opposite. The kid made horrible mistakes at the worst possible moment.

I'll grant you however that he was just a rookie, but I saw him blowing ballgames by throwing unnecessary picks with the lead!

Edwards had 2 4th quarter INT... only one cost us the game. And his arm is better than people think. He can't throw it through a brick wall like Losman, but Edwards is much more accurate and hits his receivers in stride. He was a rookie last year and the coaches turned him into a check down QB. The new OC in Buffalo will change that.

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I saw plenty of him as well and I'm with you, not high on him. I think the kid is destined to be a solid backup QB and that he got overrated due to playing a weak schedule and doing nothing more than manage the game vs. crappy teams.

I can't get over how much he was being talked up during that MNF game vs. Dallas because his team was in the game at the time. Couldn't they see he was the main reason they lost the game and that the rest of the team played phenominally that game? I guess not, but I definitely saw it.

Until these teams get a real quarterback or until we no longer have Tom Brady, they aren't a real threat to us.

You're right, he was bad against Dallas. The announcers always talk up a rookie QB who had a few good games, so that's not a surprise.

From what little I saw of Beck, I wasn't impressed. The Dolphins don't scare me at all. The Jets QB situation is laughable... Chad is hanging on by a thread, and Clemens needs time to develop. A great O-Line will help, but he still needs time to get seasoned, so the Jets will be spinning their wheels until they finally cut ties with Pennington.

***HEY BRO! WHAT UP?*** · 03-04-2008, 05:24 PM

You've got to be kidding me. Don't buy into the Redskins award for free agency. Dolphins and Jets overpayed, will still suck and they will pay the price in the near future.

dhamz · 03-04-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by scout

Chad Pennington, noodle arm right? Most everyone on this board disrespects this guy, but all he ever does is give us fits. We knock the Jets starter out after two plays and all Noodle arm does is almost score a victory. Remember stopping him late in the game. If it wasn't for some dumb coaching (taking Chad out for the guy who can't throw) the Pats might have lost that game.
Now the Jets have one of the best left guards in the league to go along with that line. I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss that team.

Almost scored a victory? They trailed by a TD or more the entire second half. How is that almost scoring a victory?

***nittanylions52*** · 03-04-2008, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mangenious

I think Edwards has potential to be a solid QB. not a game changer but a guy who could move the offense and not make dumb mistakes

Exactly. He did well at the beginning/middle of the season, but not at the end when the weather turned bad. He's just going to have to learn to play in weather.

I appreciate the optimistic view of the Bills of the OP. Although I'm pretty sure Buffalo didn't lose 40% of their starters (I'd have to look back at it, but a decent amount of the injuries were to rotational or backups).

***nittanylions52*** · 03-04-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bostonia3333

Pats will go 8-0 in the division rather easily. The AFC East has no qbs that can challenge the Pats. Gotta have a qb that can throw 35+ times with confidence. Dinking and dunking is a recipe for disaster against the Pats. Don't worry about the AFC EAST.

I'm worried that we're not as good as Indy anymore. I will be really really sick if Indy wins the SB next year. Looks like they are the team to beat now with all the decimation we've had on defense. Can you imagine a Manning-Manning-Manning SB winner? That CANNOT happen at all costs. Just gotta hope Peyton has an off year or we get lucky and someone like SD or JAX knock em off.

Hahahahaha. 8-0 in the division? How is that possible when you only play 6 divisional games? Nice try. Oh, and did I point out that this past season was one of the only times the Pats have gone 6-0 in the division?

Dinking and dunking is what Tom Brady made his name on before Randy Moss. Don't knock it unless you're willing to knock that "great QB" you guys worship.

betterthanthealternative · 03-04-2008, 06:05 PM

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Hahahahaha. 8-0 in the division? How is that possible when you only play 6 divisional games?

Playing with you guys is so boring, we've scheduled two games against ourselves.

Afterlifemobile-86 · 03-04-2008, 06:05 PM

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Hahahahaha. 8-0 in the division? How is that possible when you only play 6 divisional games? Nice try. Oh, and did I point out that this past season was one of the only times the Pats have gone 6-0 in the division?

Dinking and dunking is what Tom Brady made his name on before Randy Moss. Don't knock it unless you're willing to knock that "great QB" you guys worship.

Nice try, i think his 3 superbowl rings speak for themselves...let me guess are you're one of those guys at a party who will debate how "overrated" Tom Brady is right? Haha yeah ok.....have a nice day...

***nittanylions52*** · 03-04-2008, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by betterthanthealternative

Playing with you guys is so boring, we've scheduled two games against ourselves.

Ummm....ok? Or maybe math just wasn't the other poster's strong point?

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Nice try, i think his 3 superbowl rings speak for themselves...let me guess are you still one of those guys at a party who will debate how "overrated" Tom Brady is right? Haha yeah ok.....have a nice day...

I'm just saying people shouldn't insult a QB until they're out of their rookie season. Also people should do things such as bust Favre for having good YAC receivers when Brady has his own corps of those. It's just amusing how hypocritical people can be on here when they want to insult a non-NE player.

Brady is an excellent QB. I have my own opinion of him as far as comparing him to other QB's, but there's no doubt he's an excellent QB in the NFL. It's just amusing how much people bow to him around here. Surely you must realize that the fans here aren't exactly objective, probably including yourself. You have a nice day too.