DaBronxPats14

Its great to see BB addressing our DL/P Rushers and these acquisitions are all pieces to Pat's puzzle. BB should pull'da trigger one more time and go get Osi. He'd be a bonified pass rusher/stopper with Wilfolk/Haynesworth and these new D Men would flourish in schemes IMO. My theory is based on Osi "Legitimately" injured and needing surgery.
Can we work cap and would you include Brace in trade?

supafly

Really?? 54 players on the roster, huh?

My guess is you're either thinking of the 46th man active on gameday, or the expansion to 90 in training camp.

Roster size is still 53 guys...

For what it's worth, I think you had a ton of good points about the depth/injuries on the D-line, and I agree with it all.

supafly

My gosh man, how many more guys do we need?

Don't think Osi is leaving the NYG, at least not this yr.

Patriot Missile

I think the only change to 53 man roster is you now only have to keep 2 QB's on the roster and teams can now exchange another position for the 3rd QB slot if they wish.

The active roster was changed so you can dress 46 instead of 45.

Patriot Missile

Thats insane. I feel like I'm at a pet store picking out a puppy.

DaBronxPats14

Agreed! I think we're good but Osi puts us over,final piece.
I'm not fully convinced that giants will keep Osi this season. This has been goin on last 3 or so yrs. I see them cuttin ties.

Daigle

I have some good feelings about Ellis and A. Carter but also worried that they will take roster spots so that our youngsters will be cut. Although it would be foolish to think you can draft and develop all your guys I still get a bit worried about all these older guys coming in.

Deus Irae

Which youngster(s) do you find to be so good that the Patriots can't afford the loss?

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supafly

While you may be right, I think that he will play in a NYG uni this yr..although it may very well be his last yr there. His agent is pushing to knock a yr off of his deal, which would make him a UFA next February.

Giants offer incentives to Osi, believe standoff will end | ProFootballTalk

VJCPatriot

I'd call it creating competition rather than plan failure. Coming into the season we all knoew that Love, Pryor, Deaderick etc. were mediocre solutions at best. BB has upgraded and overhauled the defensive line extensively plus added competition at rush end/OLB. Isn't a passrush what we've all been clamoring for? These cumulative changes added together add up to exactly that, a chance at a much more potent passrush in 2011 than 2010.

They're offering an incentive that is VERY HARD to reach. 13.5 sacks is a LOT to ask. Osi has had double digit sacks before but never 14 or more. So I don't think this counts as much of an incentive for the Osi camp. Giants currently have the leverage though so they are taking the hardline stance. All Osi can do now is have his agent negotiate some more and possibly hold out once the season starts.

After all the recent additions, the Pats defense should be fine whether or not we manage to add a piece like Osi. Who knows maybe Roth will change his tune and sign for 2m, but that also seems unlikely. Actually the Osi situation gives me an idea, why not offer Roth 2m base with a 1m incentive if he reaches 10 or more sacks? Hmmm that's a possible 3m total if he exceeds expectations and would actually be a bargain for the performance.

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